Text 19937, 96 rader
Skriven 2014-12-13 18:38:00 av Bill McGarrity (12123.2fidonews)
  Kommentar till text 19919 av David Drummond (3:640/305)
Ärende: Re: Dogs
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-=> On 12-14-14 07:48, David Drummond wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-


 BM> The more humane way would be to purchase these dogs from responsible
 BM> breeders who've taken the time to breed for proper temperment in their
 DD> bloodline
 BM> and ban those who don't have a clue when it comes to training from owning
 DD> them.
 BM> It's not the dog.

 DD> If the dog has not been bred it is most certainly not the dog.

 DD> No dog = no problems.

 DD> Breeders can reproduce some other more sociably acceptable breed.

That's probably the most rediculous statement you've ever made.... 


 DD>>> There is no reason on earth why the average person in Australia should
 DD>>> have an assault weapon, nor a nuclear device for that matter.

 BM>> There in lies human nature. It's child's play.  Say no and they'll want
 DD> it even
 BM>> more.  Especially those who have the financial ability to skirt the laws.

 DD>> This is Australia - not USA.

 BM> Now who's being naive?

 DD> The culture are becoming similar but are still quite different.

So my original statement with regard to those who have the financial ability to
own assult rifles has merit. Thought so. 

 DD>>> Ah - and they're not MY citizenship - remember that I am just a guest
 DD>>> here.

 BM>> One would think by now you'd apply for citizenship so you'd have a voice
 DD> in the
 BM>> government that's creating the laws you must live under.

 DD>> I do not qualify.

 BM> Oh?  I thought you've been there for 30+ years?  Did you not get a CSV
 DD> when you
 BM> entered Australia being you're a New Zealander?

 DD> I do not know what a CSV is (in this context - I know you are not
 DD> referring to a text based spreadsheet file).

 DD> New Zealanders are granted a notional visa as they come through
 DD> Immigration - as I came here full time before 2000 and something I have
 DD> permanent residency, newer arrivals do not.

 BM> If so, you are eligible according to Australia's Department of Immigration

 DD> and Border Patrol.
 BM> Here, you should go check it out.  Afterall, you're paying taxes, might as
 BM> well get a return on your investment...

 DD> What return? I already get cheques from the tax department each year
 DD> (refund of overpaid taxes)- most of my medical bills are covered by the
 DD> social medical scheme. I will get the age pension when I reach the
 DD> correct age.

 DD> All I miss out on by not being a citizen is I am not obliged/eligible
 DD> to sit on a jury, and I do not get to vote for corrupt politician A or
 DD> corrupt politician B. I do not have the funds to purchase my own
 DD> politician so it is a moot point.

 DD> I have not been indoctrinated since birth about the importance of
 DD> nationalism - it doesn't mean much to me.

 DD> I have issues with the oath of allegiance to become an Aussie citizen -
 DD> those issue leave me ineligible.

I see... speaks volumes....


Happy Summer Solstice...


Bill

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