Text 19982, 83 rader
Skriven 2014-12-14 19:14:17 av David Drummond (3:640/305)
  Kommentar till text 19936 av Bill McGarrity (12122.2fidonews)
Ärende: Dogs
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On 14/12/2014 9:34 AM, Bill McGarrity -> David Drummond wrote:

 DD>> I have never felt a need to protect the members of my household.

 BM> You must live quite the fantasy life then.

My house hold members have never felt sufficiently threatened to require
protection. Remember  there are no pit bulls roaming here or assault weapons
being waved around.

While there are parts of the central city I wouldn't wander by myself at night
I do not feel I have any day to day personal safety concerns.
[...]
 DD>> Supposedly I am better able to access the risk than a dog however well
 DD>> trained, and unlikely to make a mistake and tear the throat out of some
 DD>> old lady or little kid who was no threat at all.

 BM> I can only assume you've never owned a well trained dog then.

I have never owned a dog - never felt the need.

 BM> You may want to look up a Schutzhund obedience competition and see exactly
how a well trained
 BM> dog follows it's owner's commands.

Then again I may not want to.

 BM>  Any dog can be trained that way so the excuses you use regarding a
mistake are moot.

History speaks for itself - old ladies and little kids have been seriously
damaged by pit bulls in Australia in recent years.

That the owners were prosecuted after the fact has not helped those hurt.

 DD>> Also I am not equipped with such big teeth so when I bite someone they
 DD>> don't lose their face or throat.

 BM> But you are graced with the intelligence to train a dog properly.

I do not have a dog so whether I do or not is not a concern. Obviously the
owners of the dogs involved were not - that has not helped the dead and maimed.
[...]
 DD>> Blaming the owner after the fact does not help bring the old lady back
 DD>> from the grave or restore the face of the little kid.

 BM> Proper training of the dog and your issues regarding bringing the old
 BM> lady back or restore the face of a kid is non-existent.

It matters to them and their loved ones and sways the public's impression of
this breed.

 BM>  Proper training of the dog may insure the old lady and the child gets
licked to death from all the loving
 BM> they'll get.

Too late, they are already dead or maimed.

 BM> If "owners" can't take the time to train their dogs properly, whether
large or
 BM> small breed, then they shouldn't have the animal.

Indeed but until the attack the dog that the owner could not train is an
unknown factor. Prevention is better than cure.

The majority of Australians are quite happy with this.

 BM>  Same goes with firearms.  If someone is unwilling or incapable of proper
ownership with regard to
 BM> training and usage, then they should own one.

Those in power have decided that no-one can get the necessary training to use
assault weapons with our society and so they cannot own one.

Most Australians are quite happy with that.

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Regards
David

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