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   Kommentar till text 1975 av Lee Lofaso (2:203/2)
Ärende: Ward's Z1 node numbe
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05 Aug 12 23:22, Lee Lofaso wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

 MVDV>> That is different from "no application was filed."

 LL> The argument/assertion made by Dale and his beloved Ice Queen
 LL> is the same - that Ward either did not file an application or that
 LL> no application was received - the implication being that Ward is
 LL> responsible for proving that he did send in an application.

In a court of law, such is the case. The claim of Ward's application must
be proved by the person making the claim or application.

It is not incumbant upon the person claiming there was no application
filed to prove a negative.

 LL> Allow me to rephrase their argument/assertion so that the meaning
 LL> will be crystal clear to you -

 LL> If a journalist said, "an unnamed source tells me Queen Elizabeth
 LL> cheated on her husband with Barack Obama", and that journalist
 LL> could not provide immediate proof, how much longer do you think
 LL> that journalist's career would be?

That should not be a question of a journalists length of career, but one
of 'is this shit actually true'?

 LL> Do you need another example?

Not if its as bad as the last one.

 LL> I have some breaking news: The "word is out" that for the past 10
 LL> years Michiel van der Vlist has been beating his wife.  Now, do I
 LL> know that that's true?  Well, I'm not certain.

In a court of law, the accuser (prosecution) of such an accusation is
required to show proof, beyond a reasonable doubt.

It is not upon the accused to prove his innocence.

 LL>   But I don't think the burden should be on me.  The burden should be
 LL> on Michiel.

You think wrong. You made the accusation, therefore, the burden of proof
is upon you.

 LL> He's the one I've alleged has been beating his wife.  Let him prove
 LL> that he doesn't beat his wife, because he does.

Another mistake by you. The burden of proof is upon the accuser.

Note: this kind of case could backfire on you and you'd end up in a civil
court where you're the defendent in a case of libel.

 LL>   (with apologies to Marc Thiessen, WAPO, who used those very words
 LL> to falsely accuse U.S. Senator Harry Reid of beating his wife)

Shit fer brains H Reid accused Mitt Romney of not paying any taxes over
the past ten years. He offered no proof, just hearsay on his part.

He then provided Romney with an out by saying that he (Reid) has proof of
his accusation.

Romney's reply to that accusation was quite appropriate: Put up (your
evidence) or shut up...

Where this will lead to is yet another WH leak, unless Reid retracts his
accusation.

 LL> Such an outrageous statement would not be effective if said about
 LL> Ross Cassell.  Why not?  Because in South Carolina it is perfectly
 LL> legal for husbands to beat their wives on the steps of the court
 LL> house on Sundays.

Maybe where you live in the stinkwaters of Louisiana it is, but it isn't
legal to beat anyone, even if it's Sunday and it takes place on your
back steps leading to the out-house.

 LL> So there.  Prove you do not beat your wife.  The onus is on you.
 LL> Just as the onus is on Ward to prove he sent in an application.

The first part is a fallacy believed by all morons and liberals who make
accusations without proof. The latter is the only true statement in your
diatribe, to date.

 LL> And let's not forget, all horses in South Carolina are required
 LL> to wear pants at all times.  Now you know where the term "a horse's
 LL> ass" originated.

The "a horse's ass" term originated at the time you took your first look
in a mirror.


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