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Skriven 2015-03-12 20:00:33 av Lee Lofaso (2:203/2)
  Kommentar till text 21499 av mark lewis (1:3634/12.0)
Ärende: Climate Change Deniers
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Hello Mark,

-=The entity known as Mark Lewis attempted to write something
of interest to the entity known as Tim Richardson=-

 TR>> See....this entire group in here, with a few exceptions, have been
 TR>> viciously attacking me over my opposition to the `global warming'
 TR>> claims...

 ml> GET A CLUE, MORON! *N*O*N*E* of treatment that you have received has
 ml> anything to do with your opposition or support of ""global warming"" or
 ml> ""climate change""...

It appears to me (and to everybody else except you) that it has
*everything* to do with global warming/climate change, as that is
the issue raised by Tim and currently under discussion.

Tim has made it very clear to all what his position is, concerning
this issue.  Others have made their position very clear as to what
their position is.  The difference is that Tim has been able to do
so without resorting to the use of insults and namecalling.

Given your posts on the subject, it appears to me that you are
what is commonly referred to a "climate change denier" - or a
shill for the oil companies - which amounts to the same thing.

 ml> it has everything to do with your incessent bitching and carrying on about
 ml> (the) stupid shit...

You believe it every bit as much as Tim does, given your own
words on the subject.

 ml> can you not understand that plain and straight forward english??

In an article in Rolling Stone (August 2012) entitled
"The Reckoning" by Bill McKibben, the author presents three
numbers that define the dilemma mankind finds itself in -

1. 2 degrees Celsius - this is the consensus figure that
global powers have agreed upon in 2009 as to the highest
increase in global temperature that should be allowed.

2. 565 gigatons - this is the amount of carbon dioxide that
scientists have calculated we can release into the atmosphere
over the next several decades and remain below that 2-degree
Celcius rise in global temperature.

3. 2,795 gigatons - this is the amount of carbon that the
fossil fuel industry (oil, gas, coal) has in its reserves,
all ready and set to dig up, sell and burn.  IOW, this is
5 times more than the amount that scientists and global
powers have all agreed would be catastrophic to us all.

The key to all this, of course, is keeping all of that
oil, gas, and coal in the ground.  That is the way for us
humans to keep ourselves from becoming extinct - or at
least endangered, as a species.

But you see, with an estimated value of $27 trillion
dollars (USD), or whatever number of dollars it is, there
is absolutely no way in God-given Hell that the fossil fuel
industry is going to give up their investments.  That is
why they are running a campaign to deny climate change,
trying to muddy up the issue.

We depend on fossil fuels to maintain our current standard
of living.  We depend on oil and gas for our electrical grid.
We depend on fossil fuels for manufacturing and industrial
facilities.  We depend on the same energy sources for our
automobiles.  Big Agriculture is depependent on petroleum
in order to produce fertilizers, pesticieds, herbicides,
etc.  Deforestation and other land changes have become
necessary in order for people to have a place to live.
Landfills and other places to keep our garbage and refuse
also contribute to the use of fossil fuels.

It is mankind's massive use of fossil fuels that is causing
most of the rise in global temperatures -

Oil/Coal for electrical grid - 13% of world's greenhouse emissions
Manufacturing & indistrial facilitis - 29%
Automobiles - 10.5%
Livestock Emissions - 5.5%
Deforestation & other land changes - 15%
Rotting landfills - 3%

Our target as of 2009 was to keep global temperatures
from rising above 2 degrees Celsius.

The United Nations IPCC issued a report that projects a
global temperature increase between 3.7 and 4.8% Celsius
by 2100.  And that is if we maintain the status quo.

As it stands right now, we have already raised the
global temperature by 0.8 degrees Celsius.

You claim the world's scientists are full of shit.

And yet you have been unable to refute a single thing
that has been said or written by them.

And I have just written this one message, based on one
article, written in layman's terms, in Rolling Stone
magazine - a popular publication available in most book
stores, and also available for free in most public
libraries, as well as the digital edition available
online.

--Lee

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