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Skriven 2015-04-07 21:47:09 av Lee Lofaso (2:203/2)
  Kommentar till text 22910 av mark lewis (1:3634/12.0)
Ärende: Fidonet Membership
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Hello Mark,

 LL>>> Illegal activity should _never_ be tolerated by Fidonet sysops or
 LL>>> Fidonet administrators, _especially_ when that illegal activity
 LL>>> is being conducted by one of their own.

 ml>> illegal activity can only be determined by a court of law...
 ml>> fidonet is not such an entity... please keep up...

 LL>> Illegal activity has already been defined and determined (written,
 LL>> enforced, and interpreted) by the various branches of government.
 LL>> And it will continue to be done so in the future.

 ml> sure...

You seem to have a problem with that.  Why?

 ml> but certain folk's actions have not been deemed illegal by a court of
law...

Not everybody in the world is guilty of having committed such acts,
much less having been tried and convicted.  Your point (if you have
one)?

 LL>> You seem to have a problem condemning the actions of a certain
 LL>> sysop who is known by you and by many others to have engaged in
 LL>> such activity.

 ml> i don't have a problem condeming anyone...

"The philosophers Camus and Sartre raise the question whether
or not a man can condemn himself." - Stokely Carmichael

 ml> look at how easily i condem you...

I am not a Fidonet sysop.  But thank you for the compliment.
Or was that intended as an insult?  Sometimes its kinda hard
to tell ...

 LL>> I do not have a problem condemning the actions of a terrorist.  I
 LL>> condemn all such acts, regardless of who commits them.

 ml> do you consider yourself to be in the class of "terrorist"??

Among the world's finest, of course.  Wny do you ask?

 ml> depending on how one defines "terrorist" you certainly fit the bill as do
 ml> others...

Why, thank you.  I am glad somebody finally noticed.

 ml> it is too bad that the word is so overused these days, though...

Yeah.  Everybody wants to be a terrorist these days.
Just look at all those reality shows on tv.

 ml> the overuse lessens the meaning and impact...

It's the Japanese reality shows you gotta watch.
Those people are crazy.  Ever try to shave with a
knife?  A knife with a very sharp edge?  This is
not Rambo.  These are suicidal maniacs on steroids.

 LL>> Now why can't Fidonet sysops condemn one of their own who is known
 LL>> for having committed acts of terrorism?

 ml> wait now... since when has terrorism entered the scene?

Ever since sysops started messaging on fidonet.

 ml> are you another one of those chicken little wannabes?

I would welcome the day, not rue the day.

 ml> the solution to the problem is quite simple

Yes, it is.

 ml> but you appear, even as smart as you are, to be ignorant of it...

Not at all.

 ml> either that or just plain stupid...

Using a sledgehammer to swat a fly is one solution.
Another solution is to let somebody else do it for me.
Either way works.  :)

 LL>> Terrorism is illegal activity.  Few would deny this.  Whether
 LL>> terrorism is conducted with bombs or with words makes no
 LL>> difference.  Terrorism is terrorism.

 ml> and asshole is define as asshole... so what?

I am an equal opportunity asshole.  And you are not.
That is the difference between you and me.  Asshole.

 ml> there's no terrorism going on...

There is always terrorism going on.

 ml> if there were then almost the entire network is involved because no one
has
 ml> said anything about stopping it and some have actually joined in...

Just like Nazis on parade.  Whether it is tacit approval
or active participation, it is still Nazis on parade.

 ml> perhaps you need to take a step back and look at your own terroristic
 ml> activities before painting others with that brush...

We all seek to demonize the other side.  Of course, we do not
call it that.  After all, the ones doing the demonizing are "the
good guys" ...

--Lee

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