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Skriven 2015-04-17 12:08:46 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
     Kommentar till en text av mark lewis (1:3634/12.0)
Ärende: Fidonews Vol 32 no 15 Page: 4
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Hello mark,

On Wednesday April 15 2015 23:45, you wrote to me:

 MvdV>> 1) He stopped posting.

 ml> yeah, and i've gone for a year or more without posting... so what? no
 ml> one came looking for me...

Shit happens.

Fact is that almost no one came looking for Roy either. And when some did, they
were from Z2. Z1 didn't seem to care...

 MvdV>> 2) We knew tha he had cancer, terminal cancer.

 ml> no we didn't...

"We" knew. That you obviously were not in the loop, does not unmake it "we".
Janis knew, Ward knew, I knew. Plus a few others.

 ml> this was not public knowledge... if it had been, certainly some would
 ml> have tried to use it against him

One of the reasons why those in the know choose to keep it to themselves. at
least until it waas confirmed that Roy was no longer among the living and so
making it public could no longer affect him

 MvdV>> 3) He did not respond to e-mailand to phone calls.

 ml> i didn't either when i was away for a year plus... so what??

During that time, would you classify yourself as "OK"?

 MvdV>> 4) His mailer went off-line

 ml> all of my mailers go offline from time to time... they certainly did
 ml> more than once in the year+ that i was "away"... no one tried to even
 ml> bother about finding out what happened to me during that time

That does not invalidate my argument that an off-line mailer is an indication
that something is wrong.

 ml>  so all of these arguments are pure crap and bullshit...

Denial is not a river in Egypt.

 MvdV>> That were some pretty strong indications that Roy was not "OK".
 MvdV>>

 ml> and yet it took direct confrontation with me to bring out some parts
 ml> of why i was gone for a time and responding as angrily as i was...
 ml> yet, roy got none of that...

How could Roy get any of it? Roy is dead. You returned from the void...

Do I detect a note of yelousy here? Are you pissed off, because I invested time
and effort to find out what happened to Roy and you did not get the same
attention when not all was well with you? Well.. shit happens.

 ml>  i guess being an asshole make one more special??

Be assured that your present attitude has gained you enough asshole points to
get plenty of attention when you die.

 MV>>> Or so she says. But why should we believe her? Anyway, the "he
 MV>>> will be back" was her own addition. Or at least according to her
 MV>>> own statement. Which you may or not believe to be fact.

 JD>> So given the information she had,

 MvdV>> Claims to have had....

 ml> phuck off...

Out of arguments I see...

 JD>> would you not have come to the same conclusion?  I certainly
 JD>> would have.

 MvdV>> I certainly would not have accepted it at face value.

 ml> because why?

Because it does not match with information already in my posession for one.

 ml> you're the almighty scientist who doesn't accept anything
 ml> without absolute proof?

A bit of an exageration, but yes, that too....

 ml> guess what... your proof isn't always as absolute or clean as you
 ml> desire it to be...

So you say...

 MvdV>> Roy had already been given up by the doctors in October.

 ml> proof?

The report from Andrew Bozz.

 ml>  this was not public knowledge...

A good friend would have known and so not reported Roy to be "OK".

 MvdV>> Only a pathologial optimist would label that as "OK". So even
 MvdV>> if the timeline was not of by a week but by many month, it
 MvdV>> still does not scan.

 ml> apparently you've been mislead again...

I have not been mislead. All the facts I presented match up.

 ml> perhaps you might try painting with a different paint? or maybe
 ml> smoking something new?

Out of arguments again?

 MvdV>> In that case, I keep an open mind and defer any conclusions.

 ml> riiiiight... an open mind wouldn't question the possibility of life
 ml> after death or reincarnation or even the possibilty of life on other
 ml> worlds... you've questioned at least two of those three within the
 ml> last few weeks...

So keeping an open mind forbids questioning?

Extraordinary claims require extraordinay evidence. So come with some solid
evidence and we can discuss it. If not... having an open mind does not mean
that I am required to discuss all and everything that you want me to. My time
and resources are not infinite. I have to set priorities. Presently discussing
the possibility of an afterlife or re‹ncarnation is not on my list of
priorties.


Cheers, Michiel

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