Text 24696, 61 rader
Skriven 2015-05-18 01:16:40 av Janis Kracht (1:261/38.0)
  Kommentar till text 24693 av mark lewis (1:3634/12.0)
Ärende: Fully connected to the FW
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Hi Mark,

>>> Oddly enough, the *only* complaint of lost or unreceived mail in
>>> the recent past was a result of Bob's system. Other than that, I
>>> cannot remember one single complaint of lost or unreceived mail
>>> from anyone else in quite some time.

>> this sounds like you are talking about netmail but we're talking

I still haven't figured out WHAT he's talking about regarding Bob :)

>> about echomail... it is really the only place where duplicate
>> detection comes into play... there should be no reason at all for
>> netmail to be dupe checked since it is sent to only one system at
>> each hop and not to multiple systems with the possibility of
>> convergence toward the destination...

>> Where in the hell did I say anything about netmail?

> you didn't but the point is that echomail was the topic... not netmail which
>can go missing... *all* complaints i've ever seen about bobS' system have been
> historically, about netmail...

Well all I can tell you, since I've been Z1C I've been connected to Bob.. and
not a single netmail was lost here. Nor has any echomail been lost. Just never
that I know of. Ward and some other "Z2" people like to call Bob and his system
names regarding "black holes", but I guarantee you any problen these
complainers have are their OWN problems, not Bob's.

>> Bob's system stripped the SEEN-BYs when he sent Ward's original
>> *echomail* message back to him.

> you have proof of this? none has been posted... anywhere... in any FTN...

Yeah..  I'd like to see where Nick gets this idea...  maybe it's a case of "if
you say it enough times people will think it's true,  Meanwhile, I've been
conncected to Bob for eons and just don't have these type problems.

>> Since echomail used to be able to be controlled, while entire

To Nick: Not "used to be able to be controlled", it was controlled once because
we were sick of the crap that Bjorn was spouting... It was brought to our
attention by humble sysops.. and we took action.

>> zones could be cut off from the rest of the world, I will gladly
>> face any consequences in my decision to not censor anyone or any
>> place from this network,

>> Beats the hell out of not being able to do anything about being
>> shut off from the rest of the world though!

> "route around the bastards" is a well known mantra of fidonet... too bad it
> doesn't apply to echomail ;)

I remember that for sure.. sometimes you had to  in the old days :)

Take care,
Janis

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