Text 25078, 83 rader
Skriven 2015-05-22 00:13:02 av Dale Shipp (1:261/1466.0)
  Kommentar till text 24961 av Ward Dossche (2:292/854)
Ärende: Seen-by analysis
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 -=> On 05-21-15  09:51,  Ward Dossche <=-
 -=> spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Fully connected to t <=-

 
 DS> If you posted a few more details about such messages, then perhaps


 WD> As per your request, see here-under:

That helps.  I have found the message on several sites that I can
access, and have some partial but incomplete conclusions.


 WD> * 0rigin: Many Glacier / Protect - Preserve - Conserve (2:292/854)
 WD> zEEN-BY: 123/500 154/10 203/0 221/1 227/51 230/0 240/5832 249/303
 WD> zEEN-BY: 261/38 280/464 5003 5555 292/624 854 301/520 423/120 633/267
 WD> zEEN-BY: 633/280 640/305 384 1384 690/682 712/550 620 848 770/1
 WD> 5020/545 P@TH: 292/854 123/500 320/119 203/0 640/384 712/848 280/464
 WD> 292/854
 WD> ***********************************************************************
 WD> ***** 
 WD> And to anticipate on your next question, here is the 
 WD> original as it left my system:
 WD> 
 WD> ***********************************************************************
 WD> ***** Date: 08 Dec 13  07:38:36
 WD> * 0rigin: Many Glacier / Protect - Preserve - Conserve (2:292/854)
 WD> zEEN-BY: 2/33 123/500 221/1 280/464 5555 291/799 292/854 301/520
 WD> 382/100 P@TH: 292/854
 WD> ***********************************************************************
 WD> ***** 
 WD> As you can see 2/33 and 291/799 at least have dissappeared 
 WD> from the lines, obvious proof that someone is zeen-by 
 WD> stripping.

Agreed.  I have looked at your message on 123/500, 203/2 and 633/267.

On 123/500 the date is 8 Dec 2013.  On the other sites it is 19 May
2015.

Below is seen-by and path info from 203/2 and 633/267.
As you can see, 2/33 and 291/799 are still in the seen-by on Björn's
nntp server.  One might assume that they are still there when 203/0
sends the message forward to other sites.

As you can also see, the seen-by info at 633/267 is very sparse.  Nodes
on the path before 203/0 have disappeared from the Seen-by info.  IMO, the
seen-bys most likely were stripped at either 640/384 or 712/848.

Some one else will have to check those two sites to verify.

As to the date change -- all I can say is that the date was changed at
some place on the route from 123/500 to 203/2.  Could have been either
of those two sites or 320/119.

Hope this helps.


From 203/2
Newsgroups: FIDONEWS
Subject: Boeing lured to Missouri with huge subsidies
Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 17:49:28 GMT
Message-ID: <63923$FIDONEWS@JamNNTPd>
X-JAM-From: Ward Dossche <2:292/854>
X-JAM-To: All
X-JAM-MSGID: 2:292/854 a4027324
X-JAM-PID: D'Bridge 3.96
X-JAM-FTSKLUDGE: CHRS: IBMPC
X-JAM-SEENBY2D: 2/2 33 18/2 109/500 116/116 123/5 52 57 140 400 500 789 6502
124/25
X-JAM-SEENBY2D: 124/5013 5014 140/1 154/10 203/0 2 124 242 412 211/37 221/1
226/600
X-JAM-SEENBY2D: 230/0 249/303 250/7 261/38 1466 266/404 280/464 5555 291/799
292/854
X-JAM-SEENBY2D: 301/520 320/101 111 119 219 322/759 323/120 342/11 806 382/100
X-JAM-SEENBY2D: 423/81 640/384 770/355 3634/12 5020/830 848
X-JAM-PATH2D: 292/854 123/500 320/119 203/0 2


From Ozzmosis (633/267)
___ D'Bridge 3.96
 * Origin: Many Glacier / Protect - Preserve - Conserve (2:292/854)
 * Origin: Owl's Anchor (1:261/1466)