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Skriven 2015-06-04 21:12:58 av Lee Lofaso (2:203/2)
  Kommentar till text 25521 av Björn Felten (2:203/2)
Ärende: Philosophical questions
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Hello Björn,

 ml>> but this is also not limited to man...

 BF> Very true.

Man is only one part of the animal kingdom.

 BF> So where do animals go when they want to have their owner rights upheld?

Many animals mark their territory.  Dogs do it by
lifting a leg.  Other dogs know better than to invade
another dog's territory, which is the reason why God
gave dogs a big nose and an incredible sense of smell.

Compare humans with dogs and you will understand
my meaning.  Dogs have big noses.  Humans have puny
noses.  Dogs have an incredible sense of smell, so
good that humans have to hire them for certain tasks.
Humans can't smell shit, and just to make sure, the
first thing other humans do is punch other humans
in the nose.

Oh.  This is about owner rights.  And what animals
do when they want to have their owner rights upheld.
Humans own dogs.  Not the other way around.  Just
imagine what would happen if dogs owned humans.
It would just never work.  Do you know why?  I do.

Man domesticated dogs.  Man has since domesticated
other animals, but dogs was (and is) man's favorite.

Man is not a domesticated animal.  And to the best
of my knowledge, has never been domesticated by any
other animal.  But can man be domesticated?  If so,
that raises some very interesting questions ...

 BF> If you claim that you own your garden, does that mean you also own the
right
 BF> to extinguish every living thing in and on that garden that you don't
think
 BF> should be there?

What is property?  Is it a thing?  Is it a concept?
Is it an institution?  Can I own a wife/spouse/other
human being?  Do I have to share with others what I
own?  If I own my spouse/android/whatever does that
mean she/he/it has the right to own or share anything
of mine?

Hermits live alone.  Folks who cohabit or marry live
with another person.  But what about plural marriage?
Why is plural marriage verbotten, while open marriage
accepted?  In such a world, if such a world could
exist, would everybody have to share equally with
everybody else?  I've often wondered if that is what
Jesus meant when he was preaching about bringing into
the world the kingdom of God.

 BF> Methinks that the original inhabitants of all the land that we modern
people
 BF> now claim to be owned by us, had a very valid point.

Land is only a small part of what can be said is property.
In Sweden, the land (in reference to the dirt or topsoil portion)
that can be owned is regulated.  As such, for all practical
purposes there is no such thing as mineral rights, timber rights,
water rights, etc.

 BF> How can one specimen among millions, with just around 80 years (give or
 BF> take) of life expectancy, claim to actually own a piece of a planet that
 BF> has existed for almost five milliard years, and most likely will exist for
 BF> five more?

Wha'?  You never heard of a burial plot?  Folks pay good
money for those!  Imagine forking out thousands of dollars
for land that you will never use until you have done left
the scene!  And then have family fork out thousands of more
dollars to build a monument to put on the land!  And another
small fortune to have somebody keep up the place!  What folly
man is!

--Lee

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