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Skriven 2015-06-17 03:54:44 av Lee Lofaso (2:203/2)
Ärende: USA Bashing
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Hello Everybody,

 DD>> Vietnam asked USA to intervene? Afghanistan DD>asked USA to intervene?
 JD> Iraq asked USA to DD>intervene? And so on.

 JD> Indeed they did, and in the case of Viet Nam, it was the US taking over
from
 JD> the French.  Afghanistan originally of course did not, but after getting
 JD> rid of the religious fanatics, the freely elected corrupt govt, did ask

The Vietnamese are still in Vietnam.
The Afghans are still in Afghanistan.
The Iraqis are still in Iraq.
And they will continue to be, as all
other peoples, long after we have come
and gone.

 DD>> I suspect that the only person in those places inviting US intervention
 DD>> would be the US placed puppets supposedly running the countries. IF the
 DD>> people were so keen on US intervention why are they up in arms against
 DD>> them?

 JD> I suggest you read your history.

Has the Red Man ever truly accepted the White Man to rule
his lands?  I think not.  No peoples will ever accept an
occupier as rulers of their own land.

 DD>> ISIS would not have come to be without US intervention.

 JD> Isis would have been there no matter what.

Kofi Annan, former UN secretary general, says otherwise -

http://on.rt.com/07zvay

US invastion of Iraq helped create ISIS - former UN chief
- February 08, 2015

US Senator Rand Paul, says otherwise -

"Intervention created this chaos.  To those who wish
unlimited intervention and boots on the ground everywhere,
remember the smiling poses of politicians pontificating
about so-called freedom fighters and heroes in Libya,
in Syria, and in Iraq.  Unaware that the so-called freedom
fighters may well have been allied with kidnappers and
are killers and jihadists."

[..]

"When does a track record of being consistently wrong
stop you from being a so-called expert when the next crisis
comes up?  We should remember that we were wrong.  There
were no WMDs, that Hussein, Qadhafi, and Assad were not
a threat to us.  Doesn't make them good, but they were
not a threat to us."

[..]

"People ask me as I travel around the country, what has
the president dne, what is the worst thing he's done?
It's the usurpation of power."

[..]

"This is one of the reasons it persuades me that, as
reluctant as I am to be involved in Middle Eastern wars,
that we have to do something about it. I think we are
doing the right thing but just in the wrong way."

- US Senator Rand Paul, speech on the Senate floor

http://www.nationaljournal.com/congress/rand-paul-
on-isis-intervention-created-this-chaos-20140918

For an analysis and history of intervention being
the cause of this mess -

http://thediplomat.com/2014/08/iran-didnt-create-isis
-we-did/

That's right.  Iran didn't create ISIS.  We did.
Best analysis, right to the point, as ever could be.

--Lee

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