Text 26377, 81 rader
Skriven 2015-07-30 10:40:00 av Bill McGarrity (18568.2fidonews)
  Kommentar till text 26371 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
Ärende: Re: Routing 200MB of echomail via an unsuspecting system
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-=> Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-

Hiya Michiel...

 MvV> On Wednesday July 29 2015 09:31, you wrote to me:


 BM> Michiel, the actual discussion started by me stating echomail can be
 BM> routed. The 200 meg came up later as an explaination of it being
 BM> excessively annoying.

 MvV> And that was when *I* came in. For me that was the start of the thread.

That's similar to walking into a football game at the 46th minute... 

 BM> Please don't twist the facts to fit your agenda. In your previous
 BM> message you stated it could be done in the early days which, if you
 BM> reread my statement, I never put a timeframe on it.

 MvV> Thereby implying it could still work today.

If indeed the circumstances still exist from the early days, yes.  You've
already conceeded it could happen back then so if the conditions were equal,
what makes you think it couldn't?

 BM>  Assumptions have a way of coming back and biting everyone on the ass.

 MvV> I made no assumptions. All I did was to state that you can not route
 MvV> 200 MB of echomail through my system without asking first.

Sure you did.  You came into the converstaion at the 46th minute not
understanding the entire scope of the discussion. You assumed.

 BM> Matt laid out a perfectly reasonable test for you to follow which was
 BM> accurate.

 MvV> All he did was create a lab environment where it could work thanks to a
 MvV> design flaw in an old mail processor.

So, if software with that design flaw were still being used today, do you
conceed his findings are accurate?


 BM> The proof was plainly laid out in full view. You especially, who deals
 BM> with facts and only the facts were given the facts, yet you still have
 BM> the deer in the headlights mentality.

 MvV> The proof of the pudding is in the eating, not in the lab tests. Only a
 MvV> demonstration in the real Fidonet of today will be adequate proof.

But you see you're putting a timeframe on the experiment. Yes, advances were
made since the software being used was capable of doing it. Still doesn't make
his *lab* experiment any less valid. The word *could* is a powerful statement
in these discussions.... something you, Bj%rn and David fail to understand.


 BM> Why is this still being discussed?

 MvV> Because those making the claims won't put their money where their mouth
 MvV> is.

Setup your system using the old software then.  I'm sure Matt or Mark will have
a pkt sitting at my doorstep in no time. 



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