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Skriven 2015-08-05 00:08:29 av Lee Lofaso (2:203/2)
  Kommentar till text 26475 av Björn Felten (2:203/2)
Ärende: Routing 200MB of echomail via an unsuspecting system
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Hello Björn,

 MvdV>> I am not in the believing business and I never accept MvdV>things as
 BF> fact just because someone says so. Not even MvdV>if it is Björn making the
 BF> claim.  I expect Björn to MvdV>wholeheartedly support this POV.

 BF> Absolutely, irrevocably so!

That is the Christian view, in due accordance
to St. Paul - "Question everything; keep what is good."
(1 Thes. 5:21)

However, such a Christian view is not shared by everyone.
Such as by one of my friends, who got called for jury duty.
Wanting desperately to get himself dismissed, he came up
with the perfect solution -

During the jury selection process, each lawyer is allowed
to automatically dismiss a potential juror from the pool if
the lawyer feels that potential juror may be biased.  My
friend told one lawyer that he believes everything that
lawyer says, without question.  The other lawyer then
automattically excluded him from the jury, thus allowing
my friend to return home a happy man.

 BF> I've been using SquishMail for more than two decades now, and I can find
 BF> absolutely no bug in it that would give any system the possibility to
route
 BF> echomail via my "unsuspecting" system.

 BF> And, as we know by now, not a single advocate of this outlandish claim has
 BF> managed to prove us wrong. All they claim to have accomplished are
manually
 BF> manipulated echomail messages that's supposed to prove their point.

 BF> But not a single one of those messages has ever reached another FTN system
 BF> and, of course, therefore has not been routed to another FTN system.

 BF> Case closed as far as I am concerned.

 BF> You CANNOT route 200MB of echomail via an unsuspecting system.

A system should be tested, and tested, and tested.  To the point
where one is satisfied that a sound conclusion can be made with no
further testing necessary, or as would be practical to serve any
real purpose.

 BF> So we're back to square one, the one about echomail being covered by P4.

Has there ever been any doubt?  We all know what is written
in plain simple English, documented for all to read in P4.

In a game of chess, the player who is winning tries to simplify,
while the player who is losing tries to complicate.  In other
words, the player who is winning (or has a won game) merely has
to trade down his pieces to get the win, while the player who
is losing has to complicate - and hope the other player makes
a mistake in order to have a chance.

The only difference in this game is that the losing player
has already been checkmated.

--Lee

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