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Skriven 2015-08-28 05:46:10 av Lee Lofaso (2:203/2)
  Kommentar till text 27049 av mark lewis (1:3634/12.73)
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Hello Mark,

 ml>>> especially on this topic...

 LL>> I am spot on.

 ml> you are flat out wrong and ignorant...

When was P4 ever submitted to the entire body of individual
sysops for ratification?  Oh, don't answer that.  We already
know the answer.

 ml> beside being a fool...

"We are all fools, most of the time."
- Victor Hugo, Les Miserables

 ml>>> i cast a vote in the P4 process as a plain sysop...

 LL>> So?  How does that change or negate the statement I made?

 ml> you said that individual sysops were left out of the loop...

They most certainly were.

 ml> i'm proof that they were not...

I never said what exceptions were made as to who was invited
to join their little coup.  For all I know, the Queen of England
might also have been invited.  The fact remains that only a very
selective group of individuals were invited to participate in
the coup.  The vast majority being left out.  On purpose.

 ml> /some/ might have been

What the hell do you mean by "some"?
It was the vast majority who were left out!

What the hell do you mean by "might have been"?
A grand total of 227 votes were cast.
Or recorded as having been cast.
Certainly you do not wish to contest those numbers?

 ml> but that is the fault of their NC or RC or, in many cases, their own
damned
 ml> fault for not following along...

Excuse me?  If the C's had wanted to invite everybody
to their party, they would have done so.  But they didn't.
As such, I cannot believe it was an accident, but rather
done on purpose or by design.

 ml> very much like you are known not to do but you twist and spin things and
 ml> make up stories and lies whereas others, when they are shown the errors of
 ml> their ways make adjustments to better stay informaed...

Oh, come now.  You can't really believe that.  I am a
disseminator of public information.  Just like the Rev.
Jesse Jackson.  A true man of the cloth.  And we all
know he would never lie to us.  He might be expedient
with the truth, but he would never lie.  And neither
will I.

 LL>> Now, when was P4 submitted to the collective body of LL>individual sysops
 ml> for a vote?  Oh, that never happened, LL>as the C's had already usurped
 ml> 100% of all the fidopower LL>for themselves.

 ml> bullshit...

Volume 6, number 24, page 1 dated 12 June 1989 states that
P4.06 was passed by a vote of 152=YES, 75=NO.

So, this small group of 227 people, or rather the 152 who
voted "YES", became the movers and shakers of fidonet - to
the exclusion of everybody else.  They passed this document,
amongst themselves, and declared it to be the law of the
land.  It was a done deal.  Signed, sealed, and delivered.

 ml> go fucking read the snooze letters and the nodelists of that period...

Dale Shipp did us all a kindness by citing a relevant portion
of one of those issues ...

 ml> one or both carried the entire document presentation and gave the details
in
 ml> which the document would be approved or not... the fact remains that it
was
 ml> accepted...

Accepted only by 152 sysops out of how many total in zone 1?
Don't answer that.  It would be much too embarrassing and you
may not want to show yourself again in these parts ...

--Lee

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