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Skriven 2015-12-11 02:15:15 av Lee Lofaso (2:203/2)
  Kommentar till text 29195 av Leslie Given (1:275/91)
Ärende: Pearl Harbor Day
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Hello Leslie,

 LL>> "Today is a day that will live in infamy."
 LL>> - FDR, December 7, 1941

 LG> On November 29th, Secretary of State Cordell Hull secretly met with
 LG> freelance newspaper writer Joseph Leib. Leib had formerly held several
 LG> posts in the Roosevelt administration. Hull knew him and felt he was one
 LG> newsman he could trust. The secretary of state handed him copies of some
of
 LG> the Tokyo intercepts concerning Pearl Harbor. He said the Japanese were
 LG> planning to strike the base and that FDR planned to let it happen. Hull
 LG> made Leib pledge to keep his name out of it, but hoped he could blow the
 LG> story sky-high in the newspapers.

Leib was an opportunist.  But the Japanese plans to bomb Pearl Harbor
had been known long before the event itself.  The US military must have
expected it to happen, even though the population at large was shocked
to the core at the time of the attack.

 LG> Leib ran to the office of his friend Lyle Wilson, the Washington bureau
 LG> chief of United Press. While keeping his pledge to Hull, he told Wilson
the
 LG> details and showed him the intercepts. Wilson replied that the story was
 LG> ludicrous and refused to run it. Through connections, Leib managed to get
a
 LG> hurried version onto UP's foreign cable, but only one newspaper carried
any
 LG> part of it.

The Japanese informed the US of their intentions before striking
Pearl Harbor.  It was really more of a warning than an attack on an
entire country, if you take the time to think it through.

The Japanese did not want a war with the US.  They simply wanted
the US to stay out of the Pacific.  The Japanese attack on Pearl
Harbor was a very limited strike on a military base on an island
that was a territory of the US - not part of the mainland.  In
and out.  Hit the target, go home.  No war between US and Japan.

That is how the Japanese high command had expected things to
play out.  That is how US politicians would have played things
out.

Except for one miscalculation -

Neither side expected the American people to get upset.

All FDR could do was inform the Congress that a state of war
existed between the United States and the Empire of Japan.

The American people would not have wanted it any other way.

Anything less would have resulted in FDR's head on a pike,
along with the heads of every congresscritter in Washington.

It was not about Democrats or Republicans, liberals or conservatives.

It was Japs bombing Pearl Harbor.  And anybody with slanty eyes
was a Jap, in the eyes of Americans.  We wanted revenge, and would
not be denied.

When we atomized Hiroshima, Americans cheered.  When we atomized
Nagasaki, Americans cheered.  When the Japanese Emperor announced
Japan's surrender, Americans cheered.

The sun had set on the Empire of the Rising Sun.  And the Emperor
was no longer a living god.  America ruled the universe, at least
for one fleeting moment.

 LG> After Pearl Harbor, Lyle Wilson called Leib to his office. He handed him a
 LG> copy of FDR's just-released "day of infamy" speech. The two men wept. Leib
 LG> recounted his story in the History Channel documentary, "Sacrifice at
Pearl
 LG> Harbor."

Yes.  Many Americans suffered on that fateful day.  And many Filipinos
suffered a fate far worse, on that same day.  The world had gone mad,
not just at Pearl, but in the entire Pacific.  For the Japanese, it was
a race war, with the Japanese being the white race of the Orient.  The
Japanese were going to free the rest of Asia from their oppressors,
namely the Americans, Britons, Dutch, German, etc.

 LG> The foregoing represents just a sampling of evidence that Washington knew
in
 LG> advance of the Pearl Harbor attack.

The US and the Empire of Japan had been engaging in economic
warfare long before open hostilities broke out at Pearl.  Did
the US force Japan to attack Pearl Harbor?  Some historians
might make that argument.

 LG> For additional evidences, see Infamy: Pearl Harbor and Its Aftermath by
 LG> Pulitzer Prize-winning historian John Toland, and Day of Deceit: The Truth
 LG> about FDR and Pearl Harbor by Robert Stinnett. So certain was the data
 LG> that, at a private press briefing in November 1941, General George
Marshall
 LG> confidently predicted that a Japanese-American war would break out during
 LG> the "first ten days of December."

The US was hardly a world power at the time, its population being
roughly the same as Japan's.  The myth that the US single-handedly
defeated both Japan and Germany during WWII is just that - a myth.
And to think that Italy was also defeated by the US.  Almost as an
afterthought.  Such audacity.

Donald Trump says we do not need any Arabs (Muslims) or Arab
(Muslim) countries to help us defeat ISIL.  It would be nice if
they help us, but not necessary.  We can do it all by ourselves.

I took an informal poll on the street the other day, asking
passersby what they would do to defeat ISIL.  One individual
had the solution -

"Nuke Pakistan."

Why would that help?

"Drop one bomb.  Then they will stop."

That was his answer.  When pressed for details, he asked me
what I would do.  I told him our president is doing everything
that can be done.

"So you would do nothing?"

This is how most Americans view the situation in the world today.
Their president is incompetent, and Donald Trump has all the answers.

Along with their own pet answers.

Not really sure how dropping one nuke on Pakistan is going to
stop ISIL.  But according to at least one individual, that is the
key.

This informal poll was conducted on Thanksgiving, before the mass
shooting took place in San Bernardino, California.

 LL>> offer by dropping not one, but two, atomic bombs on Japanese cities.
 LL>> Hiroshima and Nagasaki. 1945
 LL>> No other city has ever been atomized or nuked since.

 LG> For those who know what really happened in 1945, would call this MASS
MURDER
 LG> using WMD's. I for one feel sorrow for the loss of life too all of the
 LG> innocent people who died. Both Japanese and American.

Atomic and nuclear bombs are not WMD's.  Very destructive, yes.
But technically speaking, not classified as WMD's.  Anyway, the
reason why Truman atomized Japanese cities was to stop the USSR
from invading Japan.

July 1945 - Japanese high command offers to surrender to US.
           US President Harry S Truman refuses to accept offer.

August 1945 - After US drops two atomic bombs on Japanese cities
            (Hiroshima and Nagasaki), Soviets halt advance after
            occupying Kiril Islands.  Emperor Hirohito offers
            Japanese surrender to US, Truman accepts offer.

 LL>> We should be proud of ourselves.

 LG> The only thing to be proud of is the knowledge that not all people think
 LG> that History can be found in a History class school book. I would hope
that
 LG> most people would read more then just one book on any subject at hand.
Then
 LG> decide for themself what really happened. I have know doubt FDR and his
 LG> handlers are dead somewhere in Hell, for treason against the USA.

All histories are interpretations of events.  From what, or whose,
perspective should those events be viewed?  Over 90% of all histories
about the American Civil War have been written by Yankees.  What about
the Southerners' view of the War?  Southerners don't call it the Civil
War, but rather simply the War.  After all, there was nothing really
civil about it.

Pierre Boullé, author of "Planet of the Apes", got himself in a bit
of trouble for one of the stories he wrote.  Seems he wrote a novel
about a soldier fighting a war, told from a North Vietnamese point
of view.  No American publisher could ever be found to publish the
novel in English (Boullé was French).

 LG> Jefferson's Words Of Wisdom...

 LG> God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion. The
 LG> people
 LG> cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be
 LG> discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they
misconceive.
 LG> If
 LG> they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is lethargy, the
forerunner
 LG> of
 LG> death to the public liberty.... And what country can preserve its
liberties,
 LG> if
 LG> its rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the
 LG> spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right
as
 LG> to
 LG> the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a
 LG> century
 LG> or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the
 LG> blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure.
 LG>                                            --Thomas Jefferson

The Declaration of Independence was even more to the point.
Clearly understood by the King of England, mad or not mad.

--Lee

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