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Skriven 2015-12-27 15:06:26 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
     Kommentar till en text av Dale Shipp (1:261/1466.0)
Ärende: Rules of Echomail
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Hello Dale,

On Sunday December 27 2015 00:50, you wrote to me:

 DS>> I stopped collecting the main share of my echomail from a site in
 DS>> my region once I became more than just a user on BBSes.

 MVDV>> I wonder why? You could not get it locally?

 DS> I could, but have always chosen differently.

But why? Wasn't it more expensive to cfall out of region? As I explained, here
in The Netherklands did that when they had the choice because of the very high
cost of out of region calls.

 DS>> P4 does cover echomail.

 MVDV>> It does?

 DS> As you keep saying -- P4 covers echomail,

Your ZC tells a differeny story.

 DS>  but not in the way you might like.

I don't recall ever having commented on how I would _like_ the Z1 powers that
be to have P4 cover echomail.

What I have said is that the way I read it, P4 covers echomail. Period. I
didn't express any likes or unlikes.

 DS>> Moderators have always relied on the good will of BBS sysops in a
 DS>> mutual agreement of cooperation.

 MVDV>> Unfortunately there were too many rogue moderators and too
 MVDV>> many uncooperative sysops to make that "good will system"
 MVDV>> really work. Roy Witt comes to mind...

 DS> Roy Witt was one of a few exceptions.

Roy Witt was an asshole. Both as a moderator and as a moderee. He was an
extreme example, but certainly not a rare exception, let alone the only one.

I have come across many asshole moderators. And even more asshole moderees.

 DS> When I was a moderator, I had no problem getting cooperation from
 DS> sysops and users when necessary. Perhaps that was because I was
 DS> moderate, and the users on the echo were (for the most part)
 DS> reasonable people and friends.

A topic related area is always easier to moderate than a general chat area. I
have moderated both. In a topic related area one usually finds birds of the
same feather that are less likely to get into a fight.

In a general chat area, one finds all kinds of birds. When seeking cooperation
from sysops, one often runs into sysops that defend there users or points.
Sometimes justified, sometimes not. And when it is a sysop only area, one runs
into sysops that simply refuse to be moderated no matter what. Maybe here in
The Netherlands people are not all that enameled with authority.


Cheers, Michiel

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