Text 29827, 82 rader
Skriven 2015-12-27 18:52:30 av mark lewis (1:3634/12.73)
  Kommentar till text 29807 av David Drummond (3:640/305)
Ärende: Echomail transactions
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28 Dec 15 06:44, you wrote to me:

 ml>>>> possibly but also bullshit to a point...

 DD>>> As proved by what evidence?

 ml>> the path lines of messages traversing the fidoweb...

 DD> I receive mail from Europe in two hops. That sure beats the
 DD> hierarchical flow of yesteryear.

then you're not paying attention... some in Z2 have quite long path lines even
though they're connected three ways from sunday...

 DD> That your moved by convoluted routes says.... what?

who said i'm "moved" by it?

 DD>>> That most IP connected nodes do not move mail via the regional/zonal
 DD>>> hierarchy, rather they deliver to somewhere nearer to the
 DD>>> destination has to speed up the transit.

 ml>> what regional/zonal hierarchy is/was there that moved mail? i've
 ml>> never used one... i suspect that most never did, too, because RCs and
 ml>> ZCs are not tasked with moving any mail... NCs are only tasked with
 ml>> moving inbound netmail... so what regional/zonal hierarchy are you
 ml>> talking about??

 DD> I speaking of "cost saving" mail mover structure.

then you should have been more clear...

 DD> In the "good old days" my messages had about 4 hops before they even
 DD> left the country.

mine have had one possibly two hops for well over a decade... previous to that,
at most three hops depending on the destination... then again, i've been
attached to at least one top level mail hub for at least the same amount of
time...

 DD>>>>> And with Fidoweb it is not so likely to get lost on the way.

 ml>>>> definitely bullshit there... it only takes one problem on a system
 ml>>>> to cause mail to not be delivered to some other system(s)...

 DD>>> That's the beauty of the Fidoweb, multiple connections/feeds. If a
 DD>>> message doesn't come via one route it will via another.

 ml>> not when the seenby lines block it...

 DD> Surely if it hasn't reached a node then it hasn't been "seen by" it?

the sending system puts in the seenbys of the systems it is sending mail to...
if a system puts the address of a system in the seenby lines, no other system
will deliver that message to the system in the seenbys... take this message,
for instance... if i place your address in the seenby lines as it leaves my
system, you'll never see it... others will but they won't deliver it to you
because supposedly you're system has already gotten it...

 ml>>>> then there's a huge numbers of hops that some mail takes on that
 ml>>>> fidoweb thing just to go "around the corner"...

 DD>>> Only for those with insufficient connections.

 ml>> apparently there's quite a few of those, then...

 DD> There are many poorly configured nodes in Fidonet - your assertion
 DD> just shows how widespread that problem is.

that's funny! you're talking about the entire fidoweb thing :LOL:

)\/(ark

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