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Skriven 2016-01-04 10:31:26 av mark lewis (1:3634/12.73)
  Kommentar till text 30205 av David Drummond (3:640/305)
Ärende: Rules of Echomail
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04 Jan 16 13:11, you wrote to Earl Croasmun:

 >>> I do not remotely log into my server.

 EC>> If it will help cut through your silly word-games, let's edit "log
 EC>> in" to "connect."

 DD> I do not "connect to" my Fidonet node. It is an automated process
 DD> similar to that performed by your mailer when it transacts mail with
 DD> others.

there's that QWK/BW thing again...

 >>> Those services are not offered by my node

 EC>> Your choice, but still irrelevant.

 DD> If the services are not offered it is not a BBS.

if the services /exist/ it is a BBS...

 DD> A BBS requires interaction between the user and the host.

no it doesn't...

 DD> There is nothing like that at my fidonet node.

sure there is... your news client connects to the BBS news server and sits
there waiting on you to select an area to gather mail from to read and possibly
reply to... that's interaction between the user and the host... your news
reader is on the same level as the traditional terminal and your news server is
on the same level as the message access portion of a traditional BBS...

 EC>> I did the same thing thirty years ago on CP/M - it was a simple
 EC>> matter of writing scripts to do tasks automatically (connect,
 EC>> download the newfiles list, go to a forum, do a text capture of new
 EC>> messages, disconnect).

 DD> And without any of those scripts happening it is NOT an interactive
 DD> system. It is NOT a BBS

LOLOLOLOL

 >>> I am aware that software is involved. I run a news client here at
 >>> home, a news server is running at the fidonet node. No BBS package.

 EC>> By "BBS package" you probably mean software that can be run on a BBS.
 EC>> Do you really think a computer cannot be used as a BBS unless the
 EC>> software has "BBS" somewhere in the name.

 DD> BBS is software - not just a physical computer. Is every physical
 DD> computer in the world a BBS?

yes if they offer at least one BBS service...

 EC>> As I already pointed out, a CP/M BBS could be run with nothing more
 EC>> than BYE.COM.

 DD> And I'm sure I could turn my ordinary server into a BBS by running the
 DD> appropriate software. I do not run that software - I do not run a BBS.

...

 >>>> Did you read the part of YOUR definition that included connecting to
 >>>> the server via web browsers and "all of the protocols commonly used
 >>>> on the Internet?"

 >>> The only "common internet protocol" observed by my Fidonet node is
 >>> Network New Transfer Protocol.

 EC>> QED!

 DD> Huh? Running NNTP does NOT make a computer into a BBS - it makes it a
 DD> news server.

semantics again... you don't have a modem connection, either, do you? ;)

 >>> If you are so convinced that my fidonet node IS a BBS - what BBS
 >>> package do you think I might be running to provide the BBS services?

 EC>> The computer IS the BBS!

 DD> No it isn't - the word BBS is NOT synonymous with computer - at least
 DD> in the English speaking world I live in.

so your plebes are as bad or worse than those in other places...

)\/(ark

"So let me ask you a question about this brave new world of yours. When you've
killed all the bad guys, and when it's all perfect, and just and fair, and when
you have finally got it exactly the way you want it, what are you going to do
with the people like you? The trouble makers. How are you going to protect your
glorious revolution from the next one?" - The twelfth Doctor

... Sheep don't get suspicious if you have to work late.
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