Text 3084, 67 rader
Skriven 2012-08-27 16:06:21 av Richard Webb (1:116/901.0)
   Kommentar till text 3057 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
Ärende: Nationalist and religious prejudices
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Hello Michiel,

On Mon 2012-Aug-27 13:32, Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555) wrote to Richard
Webb:

 MvdV>> You surprise me. You are one of the rare Americans I have come
 MvdV>> across that expresse something else than unconditional support
 MvdV>> for Israel. Refreshing.

 RW> DOn't know about that, more like realistic.  I'm rather
 RW> tired of the whole thing to be honest with you.

MvdV> So am I. I have given up hope that the palestininan problem wil
MvdV> ever be solved other than by the total annihilalation of either
MvdV> Israel or the Palestines. 

Agreed, and imho, this is unacceptable.  WRongs were done on both sides, it's
time to learn from them, move on stfu and
work on building a future instead.  HEy what a refreshing
concept, actually assuring our next generation of a future.

<snip>
 RW> Indeed, and as you said, that resentment can last for
 RW> generations.  the Lakota Sioux nation anyone?

MvdV> I am not familiar with tah particulat tribe, but i can imagine
MvdV> many Indians having an axe to grind with white man.

INdeed, but there again, wrongs were done, The U.S. doesn't
have a monopoly on E pluribus unum ya know, MIgration etc.
is a fact of life as old as civilization.

MvdV> And that is why I avoid buying products from Israel.

MvdV> Palestininan products are not offered in the supermarket here, so
MvdV> I do not have to decide if I would buy those.
Right, but the products of others who would foment the
hostilities are, and I try to avoid them whenever possible
too.  I could go on with this rant, but it would just get
uglier.

 RW> I'm tired of other Americans getting tarred with the brush of
 RW> supporting a regime that the Palestinians don't like, and tired of
 RW> being told I should carry a guilt complex for what I never did to
 RW> anyone. My ancestors owned slaves when they first came to
 RW> this country,

MvdV> And mine shipped them.

 RW>  that doesn't mean I do, or condone the practice.

MvdV> Neither do I but it happened before I was born and I take no
MvdV> repsonsibility for what happened before I was born.

That's right.  oUr responsibility, as society now is to
learn from those mistakes, and make sure we don't make them
again.  just as with individuals harboring old grudges
solves absolutely nothing.  Nobody says you have to forget
the wrongs done, but part of intelligence, collectively or
individually is learning from past mistakes.



Regards,
           Richard
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