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Text 31108, 93 rader
Skriven 2016-01-31 00:29:48 av Lee Lofaso (2:203/2)
  Kommentar till text 31027 av Joe Delahaye (57597.fidonews)
Ärende: FidoNews 33:04 [01/05]: List Of Fidonet Ipv6 Nodes
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Hello Joe,

 JD>>> His RC does not have to feed anybody anything.

 LL>> An RC who fails to do his/her job should be removed from
 LL>> his/her position and replaced by someone who is competent
 LL>> and willing to do things properly.

 JD> You might want to read what an RC's duties are.  Being a Hub is not one of
 JD> them.

Position is irrelevant.  Sysops have full freedom to choose
what echoes they want to include or exclude from their systems.

As a sysop, you have the same rights and privileges as all
other sysops.  That is the theory that fidonet is based on.

When a sysop, or group of sysops, try to deny you those
rights and privileges, they are trying to exert power over
you.  By allowing them to do so, you are limiting your own
self, which is rather stupid -

"When you are treated badly, you have to stick up for
your rights." - Donald Trump, 1-28-2016

The last time I looked, Donald Trump is leading the pack
for the Republican nomination for president.  Seems to me
he must be doing something right.

 JD>>> If he choses to do so, then he will feed what he carries.

 LL>> It is not up to an RC to dictate terms to a sysop.
 LL>> In the world of fidonet, the sysop is king, and controls
 LL>> his/her own board/destiny.

 JD> Where was that stated?

No one can dictate terms to a sysop.  Not even the head honcho
of the United Federation of Planets.

 JD> Yes the sysop is king of his own system.

No shit.

 JD> Always was and always will be.

Two for two.  You're on a roll.  Want to try for three in a row?

 JD> Since you can get a feed from anywhere, an RC cannot possibly dictate
those
 JD> kind of terms you speak about.

There you go.  Sysops and non-sysops alike are free as a bird to
do whatever the fuck they want.  Have a cigar.  You deserve it.

 JD>>> Perhaps an areafix can autoadd an echo, but that depends on the
 JD>>> areafix that is used, and how it is set up.

 LL>> A sysop can, and should, be able to add/drop any echo
 LL>> he/she damn well pleases. Without permission from any
 LL>> RC or from anybody else. Period.

 JD> Certainly, but not any echo.

Well, the Fidonews is what makes Fidonet.
So you might be right about that.

 JD> Some are restricted.

Limited participation, or distributed only in certain areas.
Full participation is the norm for most echoes.  And distribution
is normally a matter of sysop choice, regardless of location.

 JD> There may be ways to get around that, but not in the main course of
things.

Only a small minority does things the NAB way.

The vast majority does things the normal way, aka the FidoWeb way.

 JD>>> You should take your conspiracy theories and move them to the
 JD>>> appropriate echo.

 LL>> What conspiracy theories might those be?

 JD> The ones you sprout here.

The FidoWeb way is reality, based on facts, not theory.

--Lee

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