Text 31555, 78 rader
Skriven 2016-03-07 15:25:49 av mark lewis (1:3634/12.0)
  Kommentar till text 31490 av Lee Lofaso (2:203/2)
Ärende: ZC Elections
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 On Sun, 06 Mar 2016, Lee Lofaso wrote to All:

 LL> Like most folks (sysops and non-sysops) I reject P4.  It has no 
 LL> standing whatsoever with me.  It remains unrecognized, not just by 
 LL> me, but by most others.

P4 doesn't apply to users so it doesn't matter if you accept or reject it...

 LL> P4 was only submitted to a small number of sysops for ratification,

wrong...

 LL> and accepted only by a small mumber of sysops within zone 1.

wrong again... the majority of those voting at the top level of the voting
process selected to accept P4... 152 yea vs 75 nay... since there's only 18
regions in Z1, there were 134 votes from non-Z1 RCs...

 LL> There is no provision for any revote to be taken, and none 
 LL> expected.

there is no need to a "revote"...

 LL> The sysops who rammed P4 down the throats of others want to force 
 LL> P4 to remain in place forever - and unchanged regardless of 
 LL> whatever any sysop may want to do in order to challenge that idea.

that's bullshit and you know it... recent attempts to change P4 would have
passed quite easily except for some individuals working specifically to cause
problems with the process...

 LL> Frank Vest, former editor of the Fidonews, tried to warn his fellow
 LL> sysops about the dangers of passing/ratifying P4.

he did??? when, exactly, was that?? certainly not in any issue of Fidonews from
1988 or 1989...

 LL> He also tried to warn his fellow sysops about the dangers of 
 LL> allowing the current dictator of zone 1 to have her own way.

really? he did this back in 2000 or 2001?

 LL> After the sysops in zone 1 chose to ignore Frank Vest's warnings, 
 LL> a nuclear bomb was launched.

that bomb was launched years before janis or frank came along...

 LL> Frank Vest handed over the keys of the kingdom to Björn Felten,

what kingdom would that be??

 LL> and walked away from Fidonet, shutting down his BBS in order to 
 LL> allow himself time for more constructive things in life.

possibly...

 LL> From that point on, Ross Cassell and Janis Kracht have been at war
 LL> with Björn Felten, seeking to overthrow the Viking from his helm as
 LL> Editor/Moderator of the Fidonews.

wrong again... there might have been a few folks against BF being the editor
but no one "sought to overthrow" him until it was obvious that he was not
performing as the editor of the snooze by dumping empty newsletter after empty
newletter on the network... they didn't have to be empty but he was too lazy or
distracted to write even his own articles... you can also see this in his lack
of calling for an election in the FIDONEWS echo even after being asked numerous
times by different individuals...

 LL> The two of them have been at it for well over a decade, with 
 LL> nothing to show for it. 

what has BF to show for being the editor of an empty newsletter?? if someone
were to be hiring editors, BF certainly would not get the job based on his
empty publications...

)\/(ark

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