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Skriven 2016-06-01 01:49:46 av Lee Lofaso (2:203/2)
  Kommentar till text 33566 av Janis Kracht (1:261/38.0)
Ärende: Bashing US Dictators
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Hello Janis,

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 >> Name a politician who has not made `mistatements`  They all lie, but call
 >> it bending the truth.  As for her judgement, from this side of the border
 >> things look fine.

 JK> Not to me <grin>...She favored the Iraq War. She believes the U.S.
should've
 JK> intervened in Iran during the failed Green Revolution. She urged U.S.
 JK> intervention in Libya. And she unsuccessfully lobbied for the U.S. to
 JK> assist anti-government rebels in Syria.... in line with that, and to me
 JK> worse than anything however is that Hillary Clinton is quite
 JK> Republican"esque" in her political leanings. This is a known fact.  It's
no
 JK> secret that Clinton has accepted huge sums of money from private speeches
 JK> for various big-ticket corporations like Goldman-Sachs, UBS, Morgan
 JK> Stanley, and Deutsche Bank...  No doubt people here who see that wonder if
 JK> we can trust a "President Hillary" to work to curtail the practices of
 JK> America's big banks when she herself is one of their biggest
beneficiaries?

I'll not comment on her time as First Lady, as the only thing of note
she did in regards to politics during that period of time was act as
the chair of a committee dealing with healthcare.  And that did not
quite turn out as well, or as expected, as the president had wanted.

To her credit, Secretary Clinton was elected to two terms as
US Senator from New York, and served as Secretary of State during
the Obama administration.

As Secretary of State, her job was to present the administration's
point of view to the world.  And she did that job well.  Extremely
well.  Better than most who have held that position.  Disagreement
with views expressed by her as Secretary of State are disagreements
about policy made by the Obama administration.

As a candidate for the Democratic nomination, she has defended
the Obama administration, rather than act as a critic.  Her own
positions have shown this.  There are reasons why she would go
that route, rather than a more independent course.

You claim she favored the Iraq war.  That is not true.  She did
vote in favor of giving the president power to make war on Iraq,
but that is not the same thing as favoring war.  As you know,
only the Congress has the power to declare war.  Not the president.
The president, can, however, inform the Congress that the the
country is at war.  Kind of like what FDR did after the Japanese
bombed Pearl Harbor.

You claimed that Secretary Clinton wanted the US to invade Iran
during the Green Revolution.  I do not know what gave you that
bizarre idea.  First I ever heard of that, to be honest.  Even
Boy George knew better than to attack Iran.  And we all know how
his mad misadventure in Iraq turned out.

US policy concerning Libya has always been about oil.  We tolerated
Qaddafi because he gave us what we wanted.  GWB made it US policy to
return Libyans seeking asylum back to Libya.  Told them it was safe
for them to go home.  Last we ever heard of them.

700+ dead floating in the Mediterranean Sea.  Fleeing Libya and
other countries, just trying to survive.  That was yesterday's
headlines in the newspaper.  Nobody knows how many actually drowned.
Could have been thousands.  Literally thousands.

The first thing that Nobel laureate Barack Obama should have
done was to take out the Libyan madman who had been terrorizing
the Libyan people for decades.  Do to him what he later had
done to Osama bin Laden.  Come to think of it, he did to Osama
bin Laden before taking out GWB's Libyan friend.

We are the ones who put in ISIL.  How so?  GWB got rid of
Saddam Hussein.  Guess who is in charge of ISIL?  Saddam's
goons.  So now we have to end what GWB started.  If that
means we have to invade Syria, then so be it.

Hillary Clinton grew up in a Republican household.  In fact,
as a young woman, she was a Republican.  That is by her own
admission.  But back then, Republicans were still sane, and
still a part of this universe.

Today's candidates, both Democrat and Republican, are funded
by big business and large corporations.  Not even Bernie Sanders
is immune to that fact.  Money buys influence.  Influence buys
power.  Power makes the world go round.

There are no Chancy Gardeners in the world.  Not in the US,
and not even in third world countries.  The business of government
has become one giant business.  And who, or what, does that serve?

This country was founded on the principle of limited government.
But somehow we have lost our way.  Not really sure if we can ever
find our way back home again.  But the only way to find out is by
moving forward, rather than backward.

Bernie Sanders is not a Democrat.  Many of his followers are not
Democrats.  How dedicated will they be to the ideals and principles
this country was founded on?  So far, they have not shown me much.

 >> Bernie is an unknown,

 JK> He was when he started this campaign, yes... he is not an unknown now.

I like Bernie.  I can agree with much of what he says.  He has run
an incredible campaign, better than anybody expected (and probably
himself).  But it's over.  He is done.  Toast.  Time to bow out
gracefully, before it gets burnt to a crisp.  But it is his right
to stay in, and place his name in nomination.  He should never be
forced out.  Not Bernie.  Not any candidate(s).

--Lee

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