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Text 3502, 68 rader
Skriven 2012-09-07 01:30:04 av Dale Shipp (1:261/1466.0)
     Kommentar till en text av Michiel Van Der Vlist (2:280/5555)
Ärende: Re: Users an extinct spe
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 -=> On 09-06-12  12:50,  Michiel Van Der Vlist <=-
 -=> spoke to Dale Shipp about Users an extict species? <=-

 DS> I can name two such, COOKING and MEMORIES -- but there are probably
 DS> others.

 MVDV> If I were interested in recepies, I can get them from the 
 MVDV> Internet myself. In my /own/ language.
 
The Cooking echo is not all about recipes.  It is primarily about a
group of people talking to each other -- just as they might do in each
other's home sitting around the kitchen table.  It is also a group of
people who for the most part have done exactly that at one time or
another-- namely meet with each other at some location for a get
together focused on sharing food with each other.

The recipes are secondary.  In fact, the echos that were focused on
recipes are essentially dead today.

I agree that you can easily find recipes on the internet these days.
What you don't get is friends of yours discussing their experiences with
food and related topics.

I scan Memories from time to time, and it seems to be a similar group of
friends -- with some overlap.  I think that many of them are "just"
users who get their echomail from a BBS in one form or another.

 DS> You are focused on the echos that have drawn primarily sysops such as
 DS> this one.

 MVDV> Why is it that this echo primarily draws sysops?

I don't know.  I do know that some non-sysops look at it, but keep out
of the discussions.
 
 DS>   I don't have any feel for that other echo you participate
 DS> in called BNL.AGLEMEEN.  What is its population composed of?

 MVDV> Sysops only. Points and users are welcome, but there just 
<<SNIP>>
 MVDV> There were never any users. BNL.ALGEMEEN is not that old. It was
 MVDV> created as a  catch all, some five years ago, when all others Dutch
 MVDV> echos  were discontinued. Users have been an extinct species here 
 MVDV> for almost two decades.

I figured as much, but had no way of knowing.

 MVDV> The reality of the 21st century is that Fidonet is a museum 
 MVDV> piece. It has no function any more, the www and the 
 MVDV> internet forums have replaced it. A handful of sysops keep 
 MVDV> the ships going, but there is no cargo and there are no 
 MVDV> passengers. That is the reality of the 21st century. You 
 MVDV> can shoot the messenger, but that won't change the facts.

That may be true in your part of Z2, but although fidonet is greatly
diminished over the past decade it still has life and real users.

                               Dale Shipp
                  fido_261_1466 (at) comcast (dot) net
                              (1:261/1466)



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