Text 35714, 271 rader
Skriven 2016-08-20 01:48:18 av Lee Lofaso (2:203/2)
  Kommentar till text 35709 av Allen Prunty (1:2320/100)
Ärende: Are you still high and dry???
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Hello Allen,

 LL>> When fresh, and if cooked properly, can be good.  But wait too
 LL>> long before cooking and then it tastes too - reptilian.  Can
 LL>> taste like chicken, or pork, or steak, depending on how it is
 LL>> prepared and cooked.  But only if it is fresh.  Otherwise, it
 LL>> is just plain yucky.

 AP> I ate Alligator every chance I could when I was 13 and my parents were
 AP> stationed at Kiesler.

Lots of gators in the Biloxi area, being a coastal area.

 AP> It is delicious and to me it was in between pork and steak.

Depends on how it is prepared and cooked.  And also the freshness
of the meat.  Can also be made into a sausage, which is quite good.

 AP> There are two places here in Louisville you can get alligator... one
states
 AP> "when in season" the other has it all the time.  You can gess which one is
 AP> good and which one is yucky.

Fresh gator, never frozen, is best.

 LL>> Alligators will take care of their own, thankyouverymuch.
 LL>> However, they can be hunted to extinction.  And eggs are easy
 LL>> to poach.  I am not against hunting, or trapping.  But wildlife
 LL>> should be managed, otherwise that resource will not be renewable.
 LL>> And that would mean no more hunting or trapping for our posterity.
 LL>> Unless we want to start hunting and trapping each other.

 AP> Nothing is renewable...

Many resources are renewable.  What is needed is responsible
management of those resources.  Especially if those resources
are scarce.  Any resource can be mismanaged.  Even mismanaged
to the point of extintion.  But when managed well, a resource
can be made to last forever, to everyone's benefit.

Pine trees are a perfect example.  Grown to maturity, a pine
tree forest is good for only 35 years.  Rather than chop down
an entire forest, good management would be chopping down small
portions of the forest each year.  Within a 35-year period,
the entire crop of trees that had been planted at that time
would have been collected.  But new trees planted within
that same period of time.  So what was lost?  What was gained?

 AP> look how man has raped the ocean.

Look how man has benefitted from the ocean.  Sure, man has badly
mismanaged the Earth's finite resources.  But man is learning how
to do things better (I hope).

 AP> There was a fish called the Orange Roughy... it was a nasty looking slime
 AP> fish but plain tasty.

Raw oysters are better.

 AP> We overfished them to the point they are scarce, now scientists are
 AP> realizing that it had an amazing lifespan... for an Orange Roughy to get
 AP> big enough to eat it can be 80-110 years old.  They are almost gone... and
 AP> because someone figured out they had tasty white fish flesh they were
 AP> fished to the point of near extinction.  They are probably too old to mate
 AP> and reproduce now... we may never see that species again.

We clone sheep.  We clone frogs.  We can clone fish.

 LL>> Louisiana had a great flood in 1927.  Some historians claim this
 LL>> event is what caused the Great Depression.  There is some merit in
 LL>> that claim, as every major natural disaster has meant a recession
 LL>> or depression to come afterwards.  Do you think it was an accident
 LL>> or coincidence that the Great Recession occurred not long after
 LL>> the massive destruction caused by Katrina?

 AP> Come to think about it Louisville's great flood may have been 1927 not
 AP> 1937...

That makes sense.

 AP> I know that most of the water went down the Ohiop to the Mississippi we
 AP> probably both suffered that one.

The whole country suffers when one area suffers.  Whether it is
floods in Louisiana or wildfires in California, everybody suffers.

 LL>> After Sandy destroyed the East Coast, President Obama knew what
 LL>> to do.  Spend massive amounts of federal funds to help those in
 LL>> need.  Even NJ Governor Chris Christie agreed, and went along
 LL>> with it, knowing what the alternative was.

 AP> If they didn't the "looters" would have kept going till nothing was left
in
 AP> the state.

After a natural disaster there is not much left worth looting.

 AP>>> Sadly a lot of these homes are pre-civil war homes... the historic
 AP>>> value
 LL>> is
 AP>>> destroyed... all because the either the city chose not to include them
 AP>>> in
 AP>>> the
 AP>>> confines of the floodwall... or the property owner at the time
 AP>>> objected to
 AP>>> having their river view blocked by a big earthen damn wall.

 LL>> You cannot stop progress.  But you can make it too expensive to
 LL>> continue.  Stall, stall, stall for as long as possible.  And then
 LL>> tell the politicians they can't do what they want to do because
 LL>> there is not enough money in the whole wide world for them to do
 LL>> it.

 LL>> Fortunately for all of us, FDR chose not to listen to those folks,
 LL>> and did it anyway, putting millions upon millions of Americans back
 LL>> to work again.  Gotta spend money to make money.  Preferably other
 LL>> people's money.  That was the key to our success.  Spend our way
 LL>> out of the Great Depression.

 AP>>> In 1937 Louisville flooded to the point where our city was destroyed.

 LL>> FDR had experience, knowing what to do.  And what not to do.
 LL>> His predecessor had chosen to do nothing after the flood in 1927,
 LL>> which led to the Great Depression.  FDR was not going to make
 LL>> the same mistake.

 AP>>> Seems that all manner of cities have had their disasters it's all about
 LL>> how
 AP>>> they rise from the ruin.

 LL>> You have to fund it in order to fix it.  Talking about it is not
 LL>> going to do it.  Makes you sound like Donald Trump.  You think
 LL>> anybody believes anything he says?  The man is so full of it his
 LL>> eyes have turned a permanent shade of brown that most people find
 LL>> truly disgusting.

 AP> Ever watch Dr. House... from episode one the theme was "everybody lies." 
It
 AP> is sad that things have gotten where they are in politics today.  But who
is
 AP> to blame?  When we stopped voting for Mr. Smith to go to washington and
 AP> started looking at who has experience and who has education we lost our
 AP> spirit.  We need old farmer smith, baker jones, and teacher Ms. Sally to
go
 AP> to washington.  We need people who are living the struggle to go to
 AP> washington
 AP> and fix it.  Not professional politicians, not educated crooked lawyers,
not
 AP> people who have been groomed by a party for it and definately not those
with
 AP> a one sided agenda.  We need every day common Joe Plumbers of this world
to
 AP> go
 AP> to washington.  Our founding fathers had much wisdom in how they set it
up.
 AP> And we need TERM LIMITS no more than two ever.

That is so anti-democratic!  If an elected official is doing a good
job, why force him/her out of office by limiting the number of terms
he/she can serve?  That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever!  In so
doing, you are denying the people the freedom to make their own
choices!  In other words, you solution is to artificially limit the
choices that people can make.

Better to let everybody play!  That would be the pro-democratic
thing to do!  Do not place limits on the people to choose who they
want to elect as their representative, but embrace all the choices
they can possibly make!  And that means NO TERM LIMITS!

 LL>> We did.  Thanks to FDR.  And we are so fortunate as a result.
 LL>> His predecessor chose to do nothing after the Louisiana flood
 LL>> of 1927.  And as a result, all Americans suffered.  OTOH, we
 LL>> did get Huey P. Long.  And FDR ...

 AP> My Grandfather was an economics professor at the Universtiy of Sewanee...
 AP> (still have an uncle there) he said even pre-Reagan that we ahve been set
up
 AP> for failure since the great depression.  He would say that the worst thing
 AP> that ever was invented was socal security.  He did like the WPA because he
 AP> believed that if you eat then you work.  He did also believe in taking
care
 AP> of our old, sick and infirmed... not by social security, but by making the
 AP> family do their part to take care of them.

Most elderly depend on social security as being their sole means
of support, along with medicare.  Taking that away from them would
be forcing their children to take them in, and care for them.  And
who would have to pay for it all?  Not seniors, as they would have
no social security or access to quality health care.  And what
about those who are disabled?  Without social security and medicare,
what would they do, crawl into a ditch and die?

 AP> In the case where someone didn't have family, or resources then and only
 AP> then
 AP> would the state pitch in.  He would be rolling in his grave to know that
 AP> someone could cross the border have a baby and then get a check for both
 AP> them
 AP> and the baby.

Life on the streets is hell.  Don't believe me?  Ask any of the
homeless.  Of course, most of them are hopelessly insane, so you
might have to ask them a number of times before you get an answer.
And even then, you might not understand, depending on what they
tell you, if anything.

 AP>>> This Rain storm was a 1000 year rain...

 LL>> The events that are occuring now have happened before, roughly
 LL>> about 500-600 years ago in this part of the world.  How long they
 LL>> will continue is anybody's guess.  However, as global temperatures
 LL>> continue to rise, these events are likely to occur on a much more
 LL>> frequent basis.

 AP> The news si saying 2 feet of rain fell in less than a day... that's
unheard
 AP> of over a teritory as big as Louisiana and Mississippi (don't forget a
good
 AP> chunk of another state got it too.)

Only a small portion of Mississippi got it.  But those who did
really got it.

 AP>>> more evidence our earth is suffering.

 LL>> And what is the main cause?  Mankind's activities.

 AP> Absolutely... and I don't care what people think... the Earth is a
symbiotic
 AP> life form within itself... it could shake Mankind off of it like a dog
would
 AP> shake fleas off of itself.  We are nothing special... just another
organism
 AP> in the symbiosis although we have long stopped being a symbiant and now we
 AP> are pa arasite... or worse cancer.

And yet we are still here.  Thanks to Mother Gaia.

 LL>> Only a small part of Mississippi was affected.  Mostly cow pasture.

 AP> My cousin in Gulf Shores got flooded... don't think that territory is cow
 AP> pasture but if farmers lost crops and animals they will take an economic
 AP> hit... there goes the price of beef, milk and grains... if it wasn't
already
 AP> high enough expect more increases.

Floods in Louisiana and Mississippi.  Wildfires in California.
Tornadoes, snowstorms, earthquakes, you name it, natural disasters
affect everyone and every place.  Nobody and no place is immune.

 LL>> Where you gonna go?  Canadians won't welcome us, Mexicans would
 LL>> probably shoot us ...

 AP> My guess is we will split into five or more distinct factions.  Personally
 AP> the place to go is Alaska.  My Cousin retired from the airforce as a 2
star
 AP> up
 AP> there.  She has been trying to get Mom and I both to go and live there.
 AP> States better medical care there and she swears their winters are milder
 AP> than
 AP> ours.

Juneau is mild.  Fairbanks, not so much.

 AP> Might have to look further into it.

Sarah Palin says she can see Russia from her house.

--Lee

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