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Skriven 2016-08-25 04:50:50 av Mike Miller (1:154/30)
  Kommentar till text 35927 av Timothy Richardson (1:2320/100)
Ärende: The Global Warming Scam
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   Hello Timothy!

24 Aug 16 23:54, you wrote to me:

 TR> ->
 TR> -> I expect you to go through each one of those 14,150 published works
 TR> a and tell me -> why they are wrong, and some armchair climatologist
 TR> has it all figured o out.

 TR> No need to go through anything. Before I do all that I need the
 TR> answers to a few simple q a few simple questions:

 TR> If it's so real....why did those at the East Anglia University Climate
 TR> Research Uni Research Unit feel the need to delete all their message
 TR> traffic on how they'd worke they'd worked on the `climate' question?

  Messages were read out of context.  horribly out of context. it was normal
scientific debate between colleagues.

 TR> If it's all so real....why does NASA find it necessary to alter their
 TR> temperatur
 TR> temperature data? To fake it up?

   I think you're talking about NOAA.  I also see you have little-to-no
understanding of how climate science works, and you're just parroting
soundbytes and one-liners from certain websites.

Yes, data was altered, it happens. however "fabrication" implies that the
numbers were plucked out of thin air.  The "altered" data was about ocean
surface temperatures. It's something fairly hard to measure, so numbers were
averaged and skewed.  NOAA has spent nearly 2 years trying to re-compile the
data with more accurate numbers and the results they claim, are unchanged.

 TR> Why do `climate alarmists' want any and all `skeptics' prosecuted and
 TR> or imprison imprisoned for dissenting? That isn't how `science' is
 TR> done, pal

  This is news to me. Each side has complete nutjobs though, so it wouldn't
surprise me. Rest assured that sane people don't think this way.

 TR> Another question:

 TR> If it's all so real...why the need to alter data in an attempt to
 TR> cause the Maun Maunder Minimum of the 1600's to disappear?

  I am unfamiliar with this supposed data alteration. I'm not really sure how
you could make something like that "disappear". It happened.

 TR> I have a wealth of information in my arsenal on this subject, fella!
 TR> Go to it!

 I highly doubt it's as reputable and peer-reviewed as the tens-of-thousands of
published scientific papers I pointed you towards.

 TR> It's a complete fraud! A scam through which many politicians and
 TR> academics have made their faked-up careers, shaken the taxpayers down
 TR> for mucho dinero! They withhold key information, present false or
 TR> distorted information, in order to continue to extract more money from
 TR>  taxpayers. The East Anglia email revelations were the straw that
 TR> broke the camels back. They are on the InterNet even yet. You need to
 TR> hunt them ou them out, download them and go through them a little.
 TR>  *Scientists* do not do `science' the way these people have been
 TR> doing.


 TR> Go ahead. Have at it. I will bury you with a whole slew of information
 TR> that will will eat `global warming' wingnuts alive! And you don't have
 TR> to take *my* word! The info is out there if you're rea really
 TR> interested in finding out how skewed the `global warming' bs is.

 TR> I will be getting back to you on this *consensus* thing soon. Have to
 TR> go t through my file I keep on just this topic and find it. Not now,
 TR> but later t tonight. BTW....the `consensus' is a bunch of bull!


 Before you do, please fix your quoting, I cant' figure out where my lines end
and yours start.


 Oh, and one more thing.  Any "information" you have that links back to things
like infowars, or any other similar website is hereby declared invalid. I deal
with facts and data, not feelings and conspiracies~~

 Here, I'll make it really easy.  We will sit here and quote peer-reviewed
scientific papers to each other.

I'll start:
"Significant changes in physical and biological systems are occurring on all
continents and in most oceans, with a concentration of available data in Europe
and North America. Most of these changes are in the direction expected with
warming temperature. Here we show that these changes in natural systems since
at least 1970 are occurring in regions of observed temperature increases, and
that these temperature increases at continental scales cannot be explained by
natural climate variations alone. Given the conclusions from the
Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) Fourth Assessment Report that
most of the observed increase in global average temperatures since the
mid-twentieth century is very likely to be due to the observed increase in
anthropogenic greenhouse gas concentrations, and furthermore that it is likely
that there has been significant anthropogenic warming over the past 50 years
averaged over each continent except Antarctica, we conclude that anthropogenic
climate change is having a significant impact on physical and biological
systems globally and in some continents."


Source:
Nature 453, 353-357 (15 May 2008) | doi:10.1038/nature06937; Received 28
January 2008; Accepted 19 March 2008
Cynthia Rosenzweig, David Karoly, Marta Vicarelli, Peter Neofotis, Qigang Wu,
Gino Casassa, Annette Menzel, Terry L. Root, Nicole Estrella, Bernard Seguin,
Piotr Tryjanowski, Chunzhen Liu, Samuel Rawlins & Anton Imeson



Mike


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