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Skriven 2016-10-22 20:48:00 av Tim Richardson (5819.fidonet_fidonews)
     Kommentar till en text av RICK CHRISTIAN
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On 10-22-16, rick christian said to Tim Richardson:

rc>@MSGID: <580BEFB1.5816.fidonet_fidonews@1stchoicecore.co.nz>
rc>On 10/21/2016 04:23 AM, Tim Richardson -> MIKE MILLER wrote:

TR> No. But it also shouldn't be the `birth control of choice' it has become.


rc>Facts to back up that it is "the birth control of choice" versus say other
rc>forms????


It is claimed that roughly half of all pregnancies are `unintended'.


It is also claimed that, about 51 percent of women who have abortions claimed
they'd used some sort of contraceptive and got pregnant anyway.


Taking the first claim;


If a woman really doesn't WANT to get pregnant...she won't! Why? Because she
would use a preventive method she knows works.


Taking the second claim;


If it was true that many women used some sort of contraceptive and got
pregnant anyway....the industries that produce the various contraceptive
products would have been sued out of business long ago! And don't even
try to deny that! We llive in a day and age where a bakery can be sued
out of business for refusing to bake a certain type of cake!


rc>Why??? Because you OBJECT to it???? Why not object to pills or condoms or
rc>what ever too??? And these have ALL BEEN and STILL ARE OBJECTED to by some
rc>for what ever specious reasons.


I'm not one of them.


TR> Since Roe v Wade....more deaths have been caused by abortion than the
rc>Nazis
TR> killed in WWII.


rc>It is not a life till its born.

TR> As for the `control over their own bodies' crap goes....it would be one
TR> thing
TR> if we were talking just about `the woman's' body. We aren't. We're
rc>talking TR> about `two' bodies....one of which can't speak up for itself.


rc>You seem to want to have control over a womens body, and you are NOT a
rc>women, and its not YOUR BODY!


You seem to care little for the `human life' she was careless enough to
produce and decided she didn't want. That means `death' for a human who
can't defend itself or make informed decisions that decide whether it
lives or dies.


And one final point;


I don't really care a hoot in hell what a woman does with her body. She
can have abortions once a year every year from now till she's too old
to strip her clothes off for all I care.


As long as SHE pays for it, and not one single cent for an abortion OR
her birth control pills come out of taxpayers pockets!


What I've `said' about abortion is my opinion of it based on reality.


Abortion means the death of a human who has no say in the matter.


And the deaths from abortion since Roe v Wade far surpasses anything
the Nazis did in the 1930's and 40's. There's no getting around that.


Women can have all the abortions they want.


But there is no provision or enumerated `right' to abortion in our
Constitution....and if a woman is stupid enough to get pregnant in
a day and age where there are so many preventives, let her pay for
her OWN abortion.


There's also nothing in the Constitution that makes taxpayers responsible
for the cost of abortions.


They played.....they pay!





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