Text 37198, 215 rader
Skriven 2016-10-24 23:13:46 av rick christian (1:3634/12)
  Kommentar till text 37178 av Tim Richardson (5835.fidonet_fidonews)
Ärende: Debate Fright
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On 10/23/2016 05:48 AM, Tim Richardson -> RICK CHRISTIAN wrote:

 TR> I'm not your research assistant. The info is out there. Do your own work.

YOU ARE when Y-O-U post wild unsubstantiated info.


So.... lets go to the research Y-O-U should have done.

Worlds MOST PREVALENT CONTRACEPTIVE...

NOT abortion!

http://www.aol.com/article/news/2016/09/27/the-worlds-most-popular-birth-control-method-may-surprise-you/21480156/


Don't even bother to post "Thats not the US!"

Here you go, sparky!
http://www.webmd.com/sex/birth-control/news/20141211/the-pill-remains-most-common-method-of-birth-control-us-report-shows#1


US MOST PREVALENT, is: P-I-L-L

https://www.guttmacher.org/fact-sheet/contraceptive-use-united-states


 TR> I DO care when some leftie babe sits in front of a Congressional committee
 TR> and tells the nation *taxpayers* should be on the hook for HER birth
 TR> control
 TR> to the toon of around $3000 or more per year (Sandra Fluke), when I know a
 TR> decent pack of condoms cost around five bucks!

Lets do the math....

122M US *INDIVIDUAL* tax payers... based on 2013 data...
https://www.reference.com/government-politics/many-u-s-taxpayers-d77a9265390f4bdb


So YOUR CONTRIBUTION to that $3K is $0.000025


 TR> You're driving the wrong train, pal. *I'm* not trying "...to FORCE..."
 TR> anything down anyone's throat.

Yes you are, your view on abortion.

 TR> By the same token...don't be trying to "...FORCE..." stuff down mine!

Nope. I am telling you to chill out!As


 TR> The Supreme Court `created' the abortion "right"


SCOUTS can NOT create a right.

SCOTUS only determines if something is legal within the framework of the laws
and constitution.

 TR> . None exists in the U.S.
 TR> constitution.

Good.. we confirmed you understand that.


 TR> Nobody claimed every abortion was! don't you ever read?

I do, you are in a tizzy over ONE PERSON's abortion that some of your tax $
MIGHT have gone.

As per above YOUR SHARE is: $0.000025

Would you like me to send you that? Can you break $100?


 TR> The GAO (uh...that's `Government Accounting Office) reports that around
 TR> $500
 TR> million dollars of taxpayers money goes to Planned Parenthood.

So???

YOUR SHARE of that works out to $4.10 to the nearest whole amount.

OK.. so you want $4.100025

Got it...



 TR> Did you know Planned Parenthood kicks back a large amount of that money
for
 TR> political donations?

Yeah? And So???? Every group from the NRA to the Worshipers of the Grilled
Cheese Virgin Mary do! SO ????


 TR> Politicians who receive campaign donations from places like Planned
 TR> Parenthood
 TR> tend to vote Planned Parenthood-friendly legislation.
 TR> Are you surprised?

No! Thats the point of the contribution... DUH!

Next. Do I give a hoot??? NOPE!


 TR> I don't want ANY taxpayer money going to such a place.

OK.. so you we a winner!!!!

Look, I think that those who need to get all sorts of thinks should pay up!
Want health care, PAY FOR IT.. Want food, PAY FOR IT! Want a new car, PAY FOR
IT! Need an abortion, PAY FOR IT!

This IRRITATES YOU WAY MORE than it does me...especially over $5

Now why not put that into something like the $3000/year in school taxes for
those who have NO KIDS! And don't bother to spout off about how the greater
good of education for all etc.. PHOEEY!

For something costing you $5/tax year.. you are way too uptight over it! And
the solution is NOT OUTLAWING abortion! And I still believe you have issues
with it over your view of it as death/murder! Which can only come from being
brain washed by one of the major cults, namely catholicism.

The world would do better if people, and those like you, quit drinking that
flavor-ade!


 TR> But when it starts costing ME money...she MADE me care about it!

Over $5!


 TR> If a guy wants to suck other men's pricks...I couldn't care less!

 TR> But when he comes down with some incurable STD from it...and it costs
 TR> ME money to medicate him and `hospice' him as he dies of it...he has
 TR> FORCED me to care.

Oh.. so now you pay for everyones hospice too! Oh... puhlease...

When you get a bill detailing x patients hospice... let me know..



 TR> *Supposedly*, we have `taxation with representation'. And *supposedly*
 TR> our tax money is not thrown good money after bad.


If you are still believing that in 2016.. well...


 TR> I'd far rather that half-a-billion dollars of taxpayer money went to help
 TR> those who have been left unemployed by this president's stupid-ass
 policies,>> or to support a homeless program

Well I'll take that $500M and put it into defense or high speed rail or
highways BUT

I am not putting one cent of that into any of these homeless programs! NOPE!


 TR> (do you know how many `homeless' wander
 TR> the streets of America today?


No.


 TR> Do you even care?),

Wait for ....it.....

NO!

 TR> or a food program for
 TR> homeless people.

NO!

 TR> And not to kill unwanted humans.

I am not going to be persuaded with any of that kind of imagery. As I just
don't care.


 TR> In the last year the number is known, 2011, there were over 700,000
 TR> abortions
 TR> reported to the CDC.

Thats 700K less problems!


 TR> Say it any way you want...an abortion is the deliberately-induced death of
 TR> a human being.

That is YOUR VIEW.

I don't see it that way.. It ain't a human to its BORN, PERIOD. No born, NO
HUMAN.

You can paint this as murder, death or any other horrific imagery you want, its
NOT going to change my view.

Abortions should remain legal, for any reason be it medical or birth control.

The only person who needs to decide if its for them is the WOMAN involved.

While I am not a fan of it.. I am not going to get all twisted up over it if my
$5 goes towards this... There are plenty bigger issues...

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