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Skriven 2012-09-11 16:40:59 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
     Kommentar till en text av Nicholas Boel (1:154/10.1)
Ärende: Pvt nodes vs points
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Hello Nicholas,

On Sunday September 09 2012 14:20, you wrote to me:

 Mv>> This is fully consistent with my POV that says you should not be a
 Mv>> private node, but a point.

 NB> I would tend to agree with this, Michiel. Just recently I weeded out
 NB> my nodelist segment, and there were 2-3 PVT nodes that I had no way of
 NB> contacting, my RC had no way of contacting, and they weren't fed
 NB> echomail or routed netmail by either one of us.

If there is no way for you to contact then, the logical step is to remove them.
But I'say that is not limited to Private nodes. The same goes for a regular
node that dropos out of contact. It is your duty as NC to keep your nodelist
segment accurate and up to date.

When I accepted the hat of NC280, one of the first things I did was to weed out
the dead wood. I tried to connect to all the systems listed in the nodelist.
When that failed, I flagged the system as Hold in the nodelist. Then I tried to
contact the sysop by other means. Voice, emial, whatever I could get my hands
on. My predecessor had left a list of voice numbers and email addresse, but I
found out that it was not complete.  Some sysops answered the phone and told me
they had shut down their system some time - one over two years - ago abd so I
flagged them as Down. Some of the numbers did not exist an more. I flagged the
as Down as well. Same for e-mail. A few responded in a positive way and they
came back on-line.

After two month I removed all those still flagged as Down.

I regularly check the segment by polling all nodes. There are no Private nodes
in my segment.

 NB> At least with a point system, it's not listed in the nodelist, and if
 NB> the boss node ever dissappears, so does the point, unless said point
 NB> system finds a new bossnode.

Indeed. And checking the presence of points is the responsibility of thge Boss
node.

 NB> I'm sure there are a LOT more PVT nodes in the nodelist that don't
 NB> exist anymore, but noone went through the trouble of trying to see if
 NB> they're actually still around.

I am sure there are a lot of non private nodes that are gone as well and nobody
bothers as well...

It is the responsibility of the NC, but some of them may not be there any more
as well...

Cheers, Michiel

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