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Text 4780, 170 rader
Skriven 2012-11-09 12:44:44 av Roy Witt (1:387/22)
     Kommentar till en text av Torbjorn Mohn (2:211/37)
Ärende: We told you so, didn't we?
==================================
 On 09 Nov 12 10:16, Torbjorn Mohn wrote to Roy Witt:


 >>> Well, I have only one car (2011 Ford Focus), it takes me where I
 >>> want, with what I want to carry, and I get great milage. (0.5
 >>> liter/10Km, which is about 47Miles/USG ?). ANd it's a diesel.
 >> Ahhh, and have you added the prerequisette urea to the urea tank yet?

 TM> I have no idea what you are talking about. Enlighten me please?

Do a google or bing search for AdBlue...it's a diesel exhaust fluid that
is held in a small tank and injected into the exhaust to curb NOx,
etc...making diesel exhaust cleaner than it's ever been. AdBlue is a
trademark of the German Association of Automobile Industry (VDA) who
ensure the quality of the product. Basically composed of 32.5% high purity
urea and 67.5% de-ionized water. Your 2011 Ford should have such a system
on it.

Mercedes Benz puts this system on their cars, used in Germany...

 >> Yeup, you get about 20mpg better than I do, but then I don't have to
 >> pay the extra price for fuel and change oil and filters as often as
 >> you do.

 TM> Here it's all about emissions  (CO2).... But then again, distances
 TM> here are not as big as at your place. I have a one mile (1.6km) drive
 TM> to work. Takes me 2 minutes, and I can walk from where I live, to the
 TM> city center in about 15 minutes. My car has less than 10000km milage
 TM> on it in 2 years. :-)

Better to walk than to drive that short of a distance, emissions speaking.
i.e. two minutes isn't enough time for the engine to come up to operating
temps.

 >>> Here every petrol station has automatic pumps using ATM cards. No
 >>> need for the station to be open.
 >> That would be the same here with stations in populated areas. In the
 >> middle of nowhere Nebraska, Montana or New Mexico, that isn't the
 >> case.

 TM> But you don't drive there very oftenm do you? :-)

Not anymore. We've moved closer to our destination. 8^) How do you drive
from San Diego, CA to Chicago, IL? I can't count all of the ways, but I
can tell you that a straight on drive to Chicago is approximately 2500
miles. Today we live within 1600 miles of Chicago.

 >>>> Keeping my tank as full as I do, I wouldn't have to make that stop.
 >>>> I can top off anywhere along the route. If there are open stations.
 >>> So keeping it full doesn't require stopping? How do you do that? :-)
 >> I don't even think about stopping until it gets down to a quarter
 >> tank...

 TM> So you mean a quarter tank is almost full then, because you said you
 TM> keept it almost full all the time?

No, I keep the tank at least 3/4 full around town, never letting it get
less than that. But I  would allow it to drop to 1/4 full on a trip as
long as 2500 miles, before I'd start to look for a filling station along
the way. Fewer stops that way.

 >>>> We employ the illegal aliens that come across our southern borders.
 >>>> I don't worry about employment, since I'm a recipient of the
 >>>> government retirement fund.
 >>> Lucky you...
 >> Not so lucky as already having paid my dues.

 TM> Good for you. Lots of people over there has lost their pension, and
 TM> will have nothing when they get old? At least in our system, you are
 TM> always guarenteed a minimum based on what you have earned in your
 TM> lifetime.

That's how it is supposed to be here. If you didn't work in your lifetime
always living on the dole, then you're going to be even poorer when you
reach retirement age.

 >>> Ah.. that explains the big US deficit then? :-)
 >> Not really, they spend more than they take in. In fact, they borrowed
 >> from my fund to pay for things they didn't have the money for. All
 >> that's left is a bunch of IOUs. That's why the fund will be dried up
 >> by 2022.

 TM> Sad....

Yeup. And the economical outlook doesn't make it any better.

 >>> I bet you they can say what they want, because there would be no
 >>> legal consequences for doing it here.
 >> I'll bet that the NTA has some regulations against using that kind of
 >> language on the air. The consequences of which would be the same as
 >> they are here, according to the IARU.

 TM> That is possible, but I still find it hard to belive that a case like
 TM> that would be pursued by any legal authorities (police) here.. But I
 TM> don't know that for a fact...

It would probably be a matter of whether or not the NTA has listening
posts in Norway. I know that our authority, the FCC, does have such
listening posts throughout the country. If they can impose a fine on a
major television coorporation for an accidental breast exposure, they
would certainly be inclined to enforce language violations over the radio.

 >>> Weather they would want to is a completely different matter.
 >> Sometimes it isn't a matter of wanting to, as many people often slip
 >> up and use it in differeent situations.

 TM> True.

My dad was a stickler for not using 4 letter words in his daily business
conversation, no matter who he was talking to.

 >>> Which is beeing beeped out...
 >> My personal observations on that is why beep out what everyone knows
 >> is being said. I can read lips too.

 TM> Ah.. so that is why we also see blanked out spots on mouths and
 TM> fingers in US made shows/programs here too... For us seeing that
 TM> being done is plain humour.

To me, that is total frustration and I usually stop watching such shows.
If they're going to air beeped shows, they should allow the language to be
heard. Otherwise, don't offer that program, period.

 >>>>> to everyone. :-)
 >>>> But then to compensate, your taxes are higher than mine. 8^)
 >>> Sure they are, but asa long as I get my moneys worth, who cares? I
 >>> probably have more money left over when the tax is paid, than most
 >>> Americans anyway?
 >> And the future of that is bleaker now than it was yesterday.

 TM> Bleaker for you, not for me. :-)

Yeup.

 >>>> Somebody has to pay for that care.
 >>> And you think nobody pays for your care? Off course you pay for it,
 >>> one way or another.
 >> I paid for it by paying for my elders care when they were retired,
 >> through government taxation on my earnings. Those who are still
 >> working for a living pay mine now.

 TM> Well, thats the way the system works.

8^)

 >>> I'm glad the American people used their freedom to elect the best
 >>> POTUS. Democracy works!
 >> Nothing has changed, which is a bad thing for America. The stock
 >> market has already reflected what the future will bring. Soon America
 >> will go the way of Greece. At least I'll be living in a Republic that
 >> has more sense than half of the morons who voted to continue to do
 >> nothing to change the status quo...I feel sorry for my kids and their
 >> kids and grandkids, who'll be paying for this mistake long after I'm
 >> gone.

 TM> Your oppinion off course, which is not shared by a majority of your
 TM> countrymen.

Today it's shared by at least 48% of my countrymen...and by this time next
year, perhaps a larger percentage when they realize what they've done.

 TM> Have a nice weekend.

You too.


            R\%/itt

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