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Skriven 2012-12-17 21:45:13 av Lee Lofaso (2:203/2)
     Kommentar till en text av Janis Kracht (1:261/38)
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Hello Janis,

 >>>> Freedom of speech is such a bummer when you're not used to it.

 >>> There are limit to free speech, you need to becivil in your speaking.

 >> I know that's what you've been taught. Hence the last part of my
 >> statement.

 >> But it's wrong. Freedom of speech is binary; either you have it or you
 >> don't. There's nothing in between, no such thing as limited freedom of
 >> speech.
 >> As soon as you limit it, it's gone.

 >> Defending freedom to speak only what you like is easy. All dictators of
 >> the
 >> world have been defending such a limited version. It's defending freedom
 >> to
 >> speak of matters that you don't want to hear, that's the hallmark of true
 >> democracy. OTOH you always have the freedom not to listen...


JK>Sorry, but not a single one of the people in this discussion
JK>understand how "Freedom of Speech" is defined in the United States
JK>of America.

I knew you were ignorant, but I never imagined you to be that ignorant.

           -=Amendment One of the US Constitution=-

You should read it sometime.

I'll give you a hint as to what it means.  The right to free speech
is a relative right - not an absolute right.  Now all you have to do
is to figure out what the difference between a relative right and an
absolute right is.  I'll let you try to figure that one out on your
own.  :)

JK>As far as posts in an echo - that's up to the moderator.

The Moderator (Björn Felten) posts the Rules of this echo (FIDONEWS)
each and every month.  In those rules, echopol1 is mentioned.  I suggest
you get a copy, read it, and learn.

JK>... We [Janis Kracht, Ross Cassell, Bob Seaborn] did disconnect
JK>Z2 and all other Zones from this echo for a time to get rid of the
JK>trashy USA bashing only to have someone else relink the echo down
JK>the line.

You and your cohorts should be ashamed of yourselves, engaging
in a CONSPIRACY against Björn Felten in particular and dissing the
entire Fidonet community by the course of your actions.  But at
least you admitted to doing what you did, rather than deny the
obvious.  Now if only you would do the same in regards to your
bogus "Nick Kill" act.

--Lee

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