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Skriven 2012-12-21 14:34:47 av Roy Witt (1:387/22)
     Kommentar till en text av Lee Lofaso (1:387/22)
Ärende: We know how to stop school shootings
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21 Dec 12 13:02, Roy Witt wrote to Lee Lofaso:

In all of your gun control rants, there is nothing mentioned that would
work to reduce these shootings. But there is a solution much better than
anything you could recommend.


- The Daily Caller - http://dailycaller.com -

We know how to stop school shootings

Posted By Ann Coulter On 9:26 PM 12/19/2012

In the wake of a monstrous crime like a madman's mass murder of
defenseless women and children at the Newtown, Conn., elementary school,
the nation's attention is riveted on what could have been done to prevent
such a massacre.

Luckily, some years ago, two famed economists, William Landes at the
University of Chicago and John Lott at Yale, conducted a massive study of
multiple-victim public shootings in the United States between 1977 and
1995 to see how various legal changes affected their frequency and death
toll.

Landes and Lott examined many of the very policies being proposed right
now in response to the Connecticut massacre: waiting periods and
background checks for guns, the death penalty and increased penalties for
committing a crime with a gun.

None of these policies had any effect on the frequency of, or carnage
from, multiple-victim shootings. (I note that they did not look at
reforming our lax mental health laws, presumably because the ACLU is
working to keep dangerous nuts on the street in all 50 states.)

Only one public policy has ever been shown to reduce the death rate from
such crimes: concealed-carry laws.

Their study controlled for age, sex, race, unemployment, retirement,
poverty rates, state population, murder arrest rates, violent crime rates,
and on and on.

The effect of concealed-carry laws in deterring mass public shootings was
even greater than the impact of such laws on the murder rate generally.

Someone planning to commit a single murder in a concealed-carry state only
has to weigh the odds of (that) one person being armed. But a criminal
planning to commit murder in a public place has to worry that anyone in
the entire area might have a gun.

You will notice that most multiple-victim shootings occur in "gun-free
zones" - even within states that have concealed-carry laws: public
schools, churches, Sikh temples, post offices, the movie theater where
James Holmes committed mass murder, and the Portland, Ore., mall where a
nut gunned down shoppers a few weeks ago.

Guns were banned in all these places. Mass killers may be crazy (like
Lee), but they're not stupid.

If the deterrent effect of concealed-carry laws seems surprising to you,
that's because the media hide stories of armed citizens stopping mass
shooters. At the Portland shooting, for example, no explanation was given
for the amazing fact that the assailant managed to kill only two people in
the mall during the busy Christmas season.

It turns out, concealed-carry-holder Nick Meli hadn't noticed that the
mall was a gun-free zone. He pointed his (otherwise legal) gun at the
shooter as he paused to reload, and the next shot was the attempted mass
murderer killing himself. (Meli aimed, but didn't shoot, because there
were bystanders behind the shooter.)

In a nonsense "study" going around the Internet right now, Mother Jones
magazine claims to have produced its own study of all public shootings in
the last 30 years and concludes: "In not a single case was the killing
stopped by a civilian using a gun."

This will come as a shock to people who know something about the subject.

The magazine reaches its conclusion by simply excluding all cases where an
armed civilian stopped the shooter: They looked only at public shootings
where four or more people were killed, i.e., the ones where the shooter
wasn't stopped.

If we care about reducing the number of people killed in mass shootings,
shouldn't we pay particular attention to the cases where the aspiring mass
murderer was prevented from getting off more than a couple rounds?

It would be like testing the effectiveness of weed killers, but refusing
to consider any cases where the weeds died.

In addition to the Portland mall case, here are a few more examples
excluded by the Mother Jones methodology:

- Mayan Palace Theater, San Antonio, Texas, this week: Jesus Manuel Garcia
shoots at a movie theater, a police car and bystanders from the nearby
China Garden restaurant; as he enters the movie theater, guns blazing, an
armed off-duty cop shoots Garcia four times, stopping the attack. Total
dead: Zero.

- Winnemucca, Nev., 2008: Ernesto Villagomez opens fire in a crowded
restaurant; concealed-carry permit-holder shoots him dead. Total dead:
Two. (I'm excluding the shooters' deaths in these examples.)

- Appalachian School of Law, 2002: Crazed immigrant shoots the dean and a
professor, then begins shooting students; as he goes for more ammunition,
two armed students point their guns at him, allowing a third to tackle
him. Total dead: Three.

- Santee, Calif., 2001: Student begins shooting his classmates - as well
as the "trained campus supervisor"; an off-duty cop who happened to be
bringing his daughter to school that day points his gun at the shooter,
holding him until more police arrive. Total dead: Two.

- Pearl High School, Mississippi, 1997: After shooting several people at
his high school, student heads for the junior high school; assistant
principal Joel Myrick retrieves a .45 pistol from his car and points it at
the gunman's head, ending the murder spree. Total dead: Two.

- Edinboro, Pa., 1998: A student shoots up a junior high school dance
being held at a restaurant; restaurant owner pulls out his shotgun and
stops the gunman. Total dead: One.

By contrast, the shootings in gun-free zones invariably result in far
higher casualty figures - Sikh temple, Oak Creek, Wis. (six dead);
Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Va. (32 dead); Columbine High School,
Columbine, Colo. (12 dead); Amish school, Lancaster County, Pa. (five
little girls killed); public school, Craighead County, Ark. (five killed,
including four little girls).

All these took place in gun-free zones, resulting in lots of people
getting killed - and thereby warranting inclusion in the Mother Jones
study.

If what we care about is saving the lives of innocent human beings by
reducing the number of mass public shootings and the deaths they cause,
only one policy has ever been shown to work: concealed-carry laws. On the
other hand, if what we care about is self-indulgent grandstanding, and to
hell with dozens of innocent children being murdered in cold blood, try
the other policies.


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