Text 5789, 49 rader
Skriven 2013-01-20 12:41:33 av mark lewis (1:3634/12.42)
   Kommentar till text 5748 av Nicholas Boel (16948.fidonews)
Ärende: Z4
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 >> I'm toying with the idea of proposing to the remaining ZCs to remove
 >> Z4 with NODELIST.091 if no form of life manifests itself.

 JK> Big IF there, Ward.. Too bad Manuel posted a message in ZCC for
 JK> ya today.

 JK> Btw, he netmailed a reply to me today.

 NB> I think the point (more or less) is the fact that if you can't even
 NB> get a netmail to ZC4 at any time of day/night, 

but you /can/ send netmail any time... several of us have shown that we can
connect with the Z4 mailer...

 NB> how can you possibly route netmail in zone 4 successfully?

 NB> I don't want to take any sides here, but I tried connecting to
 NB> adorni.no-ip.info with a telnet client today because of all this
 NB> discussion.. I tried port 24554 and port 23, and got no response
 NB> from either one. Just as well, to make sure, I tried again just
 NB> now, and got the same results. Of all people, wouldn't you agree
 NB> that the ZC of any zone should be responsive at all times? 

we cannot always tell from "out here" what the problem may be with connections
to any system... i've already pointed out that there may be some sort of active
protection mechanism in place... unless Z4C actually says anything, no one will
know, either... personally, i think some are stuck on putting their noses where
they don't belong :?

 NB> I've read policy, and have gotten schooled by some of the long-time
 NB> members of Fidonet here. If this isn't the case, then again, we're
 NB> throwing Fidonet policy, rules, and traditions right out the window
 NB> again.

 NB> Am I mistaken here? And if I am, PLEASE explain, because rules get
 NB> bent all the time, and I'm not seeing any structure to anything as
 NB> an NC. If that's the case, anyone that wants a fidonet feed (no
 NB> matter where they live) can get one under my net -- if these
 NB> shenannegans are going to keep progressing, and since some RCs are
 NB> uncontactable as well as unhelpful of new node applicants. I'm
 NB> already tired of trying to get things done "the right way".

dude, damn... some of us have been trying for 20+ years... you still have a
ways to go before you can "get tired of it" ;) :P

)\/(ark

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