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Skriven 2012-07-14 03:10:22 av mark lewis (1:3634/12.0)
     Kommentar till en text av Nick Andre
Ärende: .fidonet
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ML>  NA> The FTSC is only a paper-tiger at this point. 
ML> 
ML> no thanks to others in the history of the network :(

 NA> What would you prefer the FTSC to be? Michiel does his job. 

barely!

 NA> He's nothing more  than a moderator and librarian. Its not the 
 NA> fault or responsibility of the  FTSC or him to come up with the 
 NA> next brilliant thing past Squish, Jam or EMSI. 

i know this... i'm one of, if not the oldest, member of the FTSC... i've seen
it thru three incarnations... but maybe you and others don't see and understand
this... i dunno... what i do know is that i'm extremely tired of trying to help
fix things and have all FTN related software work together and perform the main
task of communications across all networks that fidonet is connected with...

 NA> If the FTSC is not up to your standards, why remain a member? :) 

one might ask the same of you... i've never said that the FTSC was not up to my
standards...

 NA> If you want "results", you MAKE results. You don't sit around and
 NA> wait for  people to vote on your new idea as official standard. You
 NA> just DO IT. 

ummmhummm... obviously you've never worked in a real group environment where
patches and code changes have to be approved by others who are "ranked" higher
than you... this is not even anything to do with the FTSC, BTW...

ML>  NA> The document explaining  MSGID is pretty clear, so its not
ML>  NA> necessary to involve anyone for  clarification. And the Synchronet 
ML>  NA> developers have largely concluded that there is no problem... 
ML> 
ML> that's because they apparently have not followed all the trails and other
ML> defacto standards of operation and methodology :(

 NA> Not my problem. MSGID is clearly explained. They've been Swindelled
 NA> (tm) 

not my problem... yup... same story i've heard for years from the networks new
youths who are supposedly trying to help the network and fix the problems that
its software has... whatever! same old story... nothing changes... there's a
blast of development and then nothing and it all falls to the wayside...

ML>  NA> so... it will be a task for someone who wants to take  initiative 
ML>  NA> to fix the problem themselves, its open source if I'm correct. 
ML> 
ML> yeah yeah yeah... so anyone with an interest in fixing this has to
ML> become a
ML> synchronet developer and hope that their patches are accepted and
ML> merged in
ML> the main trunkline? somehow i don't think so...

 NA> You're smart. Fix Synchronet. Just fix it. Say fuck it and fork it
 NA> into your  own flavor or release. Let the crowds follow your work,
 NA> and they will. Let  them flame and troll you for "stealing"
 NA> something already in the open and making it better than the other
 NA> guy.

why would i want to do something as st00pid and silly as that? i'd much rather
get the original stuff fixed than to bring yet another pile of crap into my
life to fix and deal with...

 NA> Happened with AdeptXBBS; a very underrated and brilliant OS/2 BBS
 NA> package. 

yup... and where is it and its developer today? are they still here in fidonet
or no?

)\/(ark

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