Text 5818, 48 rader
Skriven 2013-01-20 21:45:31 av mark lewis (1:3634/12.42)
   Kommentar till text 5805 av Björn Felten (2:203/2)
Ärende: Z4
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 NB>> I think the point (more or less) is the fact that if you can't 
 NB>> even get a netmail to ZC4 at any time of day/night,

 ml> but you /can/ send netmail any time... several of us have shown 
 ml> that we can connect with the Z4 mailer...

 BF>    You don't really mean that, do you Mark?

yes, i do mean exactly that...

 BF>    For crying out loud, if I couldn't connect to my host for
 BF> several weeks, when I was still a humble hub, I would have raised
 BF> hell.

that's one thing and has nothing to do with sending your host a netmail and
expecting a response back... you can send and expect but they are under no
obligation to comply... don't mix the apples with the oranges and even moreso,
don't mix the navel oranges with the sweet red ones... while they may both be
oranges, they are still quite different...

 BF>    In fact, when the Swedish RC went AWOL in the early 1990s, I 
 BF> set up a temporary RC20 server for the entire Swedish FTN (by then 
 BF> almost 1000 nodes) and had it running for more than a week.

ok...

 BF>    No way we would have accepted an uplink that responds once a 
 BF> month and then not even respond properly.

apples and oranges again...

 BF>    Give us all a break here, for Pete's sake! How hard can it be to
 BF> accept that Z4 is only star dust nowadays. What do you think you
 BF> are gaining -- Fidonet wise -- by beating this dead horse? Will you
 BF> bang it on the counter and tell us it's just sleeping like a
 BF> Norwegian Blue or something...

i'm not rising to your bait, man... no one is under any obligation to respond
to netmail, routed or direct, at all... granted, there seem to be some
connection issues but we are on the outside and we have not been told what
these issues are... if there are problems inside Z4 with those Z4 nodes
connecting with their selected Z4C, then that is *THEIR* problem and up to
*THEM* to raise a fuss about and correct IF that is THEIR will...

)\/(ark

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