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Skriven 2012-07-06 06:41:28 av Roy Witt (1:387/22)
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05 Jul 12 12:59, mark lewis wrote to Roy Witt:


 RW>>> That doesn't help the person who's in need of fixing his
 RW>>> nodelisting, on the fly. If it ain't readily available anywhere I
 RW>>> have access to, I'd use the Userflag for that too.

 ml>> they/you should be verifying their entry against the FTSC document
 ml>> that describes the nodestlist...

 RW>> Not my job! I'm only responsible for my own segment.

 ml> right and therefore validating it against the FTSC document(s) that
 ml> define the nodelist and the flags used in the nodelist ;)

Nope, using the examples in the nodelist put there by the *C who inserted
those examples in the nodelist for me to use. It isn't my job to argue the
point if the coordinator above me wants it that way. As an NC, I'm the
shitboy at the bottom of the pile.

 RW>> If the *C who makes up the nodelist doesn't do their job in using
 RW>> up-to- date material according to FTSC docs and published in the
 RW>> nodelist as an example, why should I bother?

 ml> dunno... why should you? ;)

I don't.

 ml>> just because the nodelist says "x" doesn't mean that "y" is not
 ml>> reality... see the recent Z2C shennagins for confirmation of that
 ml>> misnomer ;)

 RW>> LOL! Wad is a ZC, so he can ignore anything he wants to...

 ml> hahaha...

If that isn't true of all ZCs, and RCs, then it isn't incumbant upon me to
correct their mistakes. Let them suffer the embarrassment of setting a
wrong example for everyone to follow, instead.

 ml>>> the footer in the Z1 nodelist only need be updated to use the new
 ml>>> documentation...

 RW>>> Too late for that...Wad has already fixed it to be used as a User
 RW>>> flag.

 ml>> he hasn't "fixed" it either... he and his program have been wrong
 ml>> for a long time...

 RW>> I knew that the first time I saw what he uses. Too much BS for me.

 ml> the sad thing is that he has cowtowed everyone else in Z2 to
 ml> believing that his way is right when it isn't and never has been...
 ml> his steele fist was showing back then and still peeks out at times
 ml> these days, too...

 ml>> especially in the aspect (for lack of better wording) of USER
 ml>> flags...

 RW>>                 in respect to USER flags.

 ml> thanks :)

 ml>> user flags are user defined... they are freeform and free from any
 ml>> official definition...

 RW>> So, he can use TCc in a User flag format if he wants to.

 ml> well, yes... but are the mailers who pay attention to the Txy flags
 ml> actually going to find it behind a U, in the nodelist? that's the
 ml> stickler...

I set that in Irex by configuring it, via GUI software, to comply with
what "I" read in the nodelist. I would never rely on any software to do
the job of deciphering a listing on its own when I know for a fact that
it can't do that job.

 ml> [trim]

 ml>> in all cases, the specs are the rule... and the specs specifically
 ml>> state that they corrected this particular misrepresentation... it
 ml>> only remains now for those *Cs that include this information in
 ml>> their segment's appendage to correct it by changing it to read the
 ml>> meat and basics of the pertient FTSC document...

 RW>> 8^) So, the following is a prime example of the correct method to
 RW>> follow specs as defined in FTSC documentation in using the User
 RW>> flag to show Time Online?

 RW>> ,20,FTSC_Chair,NL,Michiel_van_der_Vlist,31-343-518411,33600,MN,MO,X
 RW>> X,ICM,V 34,V42B,INA:admin.ftsc.org,IBN,PING,U,TCc,ENC

 ml> no... a userflag should not be used for something that a mailer is
 ml> expected to see, understand and follow... the end of the above line
 ml> should look like this...

 ml>  IBN,PING,TCc,U,ENC

Now all you have to do is convince Michiel and Wad of that. I couldn't
care less when my mailer doesn't know about where it should be.

                R\%/itt

... besides, IMNSHO, Ward Dossche should resign as ZC2 and surrender his
... net node-number to the ZCC !            - Cato the Elder -

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