Text 7004, 88 rader
Skriven 2013-02-27 19:23:42 av Roy Witt (1:387/22)
   Kommentar till text 6999 av Kees van Eeten (2:280/5003.4)
Ärende: LOL!
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Kees van Eeten wrote to Roy Witt:

 KvE>>>  The Policy number, I gathered. I have never read the document, so
 KvE>>> I did not know it was separated in sections.

 RW>> LOL! And that statement makes Michiel a fibber, since he states that
 RW>> every nodelisted sysop must read and agree to abide by that policy.

 KvE>  I am also supposed to know the laws of my country. Up till now my
 KvE> only offence is speeding,

As far as I know (and the police would be at my door if I had) I haven't
violated any laws of my country. Nor do I claim to know them all, but I'm
quite aware of a lot of them.

 KvE> and nobody has ever claimed I violated a Fidonet policy.

Another problem with Michiel is that he expects everyone to comply with
policy, when he says so. I didn't like his attitude and passworded him
from accessing my IP node. He didn't even have the balls to provide me
with a copy of the policy complaint that got thrown out by my RC, and when
he appealed to, thrown out by my ZC ... he wasn't satisfied with that and
I believe he was being prompted by Ward Dossche all of the way. Ward did
this so that he could remove me from the nodelist like he has done to so
many others who dislike and annoy him. This, since Ward was not only the
zone 2 ZC, but also the IC. That all blew up in their faces and is why
Ward was booted out of the IC position.  I'm glad that I had a hand in
that, since he was becoming more than the network could stand from one
policy wanker.

 KvE>  Where I stopped reading on how to behave in Fidonet, was in an
 KvE> early document. It read along the lines. "Do not annoy others and do
 KvE> not be easily annoyed." That sufficed for me. Unfortunately very few
 KvE> remember these lines or live up to them.

And so, if your left eye offends thee, pluck it from yourself and discard
it.

 RW>> Of course. When you meet someone you've only known through their
 RW>> writing (which in Michiel's case is argumentative and all knowing at
 RW>> the same time, not to mention the chip on his shoulder), they have
 RW>> to stop being an asshole and be nice, or they'll lose face when you
 RW>> report that they're the same in real life as they portray themselves
 RW>> in Fidonet.

 KvE>  I do not agree with your choice of words for typecasting people.

You apparently haven't seen his writings in that regard. Michiel has a
chip on his shoulder over Z1 in general because we 'shoved policy down his
throat' and he 'wouldn't ever visit here because he's afraid of being
thrown in prison' for something he said. I presume that I should add
paranoia to the above list too.

 KvE> Your observations about behaviour are valid for a number of
 KvE> participants in this Echo.

Yeah that is true and Bjorn Felten leads and incites the pack...

 KvE>>> The man who surprised me most, was Ron Dwight a former ZC2.

 RW>> Good or bad, I assume that he wasn't the ogre that Ward makes him
 RW>> out to be.

 KvE>  In the region where Ron Dwight lived, they are called Trolls.

Finland? It may be that Finns impress people in that way. I worked with a
Fin who I considered a troll. At the time I thought that there couldn't be
anybody worse than an Engishman. This guy changed my mind.

 KvE> I met the person at the same Fidocon as Ward did. Ward was one of
 KvE> the organisers. He must have had more contact with Ron Dwight as I
 KvE> did. I just observed.

That's more fun anyway. We visit train stations, airports and highway rest
stops, just to observe people.

 KvE> I will not say more, as the man is no loger among us.

It's ok to talk about the dead. Bob Satti (former ZC1) is still talked
about and he passed away a few years ago.

Did you know that Dwight passed away while living in the US?

         R\%/itt


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