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Skriven 2013-08-18 16:44:58 av Lee Lofaso (2:203/2)
   Kommentar till text 9779 av Stewart Arnett (3:772/100)
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Hello Stewart,

 RW>> We as native English speakers realize that the language is hard
 RW>> to learn

 SA>> Roy is not and never will be a native English speaker his
 SA>> language is an abomination of the real language.

 RW>> If this dude only knew what real English is...it isn't the dead and
 RW>> dying OLD English that he only knows and uses; real English is a
 RW>> language that grows and expands along with the times, which Stewart
 RW>> could never do.

 LL>> Oh, c'mon.  Be honest.  You speak Texan, I speak Cajun, and Stewart
 LL>> speaks Kiwi.  So who are we to say what real English is?  By my way
 LL>> of thinking, Cajun English is the only real English, with everybody
 LL>> else talking funny.  Texan English is what the whole world laughed
 LL>> at every time George W. Bush opened his mouth (except for educators
 LL>> who taught English in schools).

SA>Sorry Lee, I do not speak "Kiwi" any more than you speak French,

I am Cajun and speak Cajun French.  The French spoken in Louisiana
is more similar to the colloquial French spoken in 17th-Century France
rather than the modern French spoken in Paris today.  But I consider
Cajun French as being a unique language, which it is, having its own
distinct grammar and word usage.

SA>I am English and not a Kiwi

I am Cajun and not American, as there is no such thing as a Cajun
American, with or without a hyphen.  In fact, Cajuns were here first,
before Americans ever arrived in Louisiana, when there was no USA.

SA>if you want to listen to the dialect that I use listen to any
SA>of Ronan Parke's interviews on the Utube.

There are many different dialects of English, as there are of
French.  However, how many dialects of English (or French) are
a separate and distinct language?

SA>He comes from Poringland, I hale from East Carleton and he goes to
SA>the same School I went to. Our origins are within 1 mile of each
SA>other.

Most Cajuns live in the southern part of Louisiana, along the coast.
However, as with any linguistic group, there are distinctions within
that group.  Cajuns in the southeastern part of Louisiana speak a
form of French that is closer to the French nobility who settled in
and around New Orleans, while Cajuns in the southwestern part of
Louisiana speak a form of French that is closer to the French settlers
of Nova Scotia (Acadie) who were kicked out by the British.  The form
of French spoken by residents of New Orleans is Creole, rather than
Cajun.  And Creole can be broken down into two separate and distinct
forms of French.

With all that said, regardless of the French spoken in Louisiana, we
can easily understand and converse with people from France (and Canada).
I do, however, find it much easier to converse with people from France,
as folks in Canada (Quebe‡ois) tend to speak far too fast for me.  :)

SA>You will find that it is distinctly different to the inferior stuff
SA>pronounced by a Texan other than perhaps one educated at Oxford or
SA>Cambridge.

Americans tried to convince Cajuns that Cajun French was inferior
to the French spoken in France.  They called the French spoken in
Paris the "good" French, thus putting down Cajuns as being "stupid"
and our Cajun French language as being inferior to both French and
English.  However, today we know better and refuse to be dictated
by Americans as to what language to speak.

SA>Of course these are the type of institution Roy never has entered
SA>or would be invited to enter.

Well, what does he know?  I graduated from Harvard on the Bayou.
After classes, and sometimes on weekends, we would have pirogue races
on Bayou Lafourche.  And hope not to get eaten by the alligators.
How long to you think Roy would last in those waters?

 LL>> "Is our children learning?" - George W. Bush

 BV>>>>>>> but with Dossche, MVL, and all the other Jerk's here in Z2 it
 BV>>>>>>> is very hard, to be polite.

 RW>>>>>> We know that for a fact...if they'd all go away and leave Fido
 RW>>>>>> to itself, it would soon be a much better network to play
 RW>>>>>> in...

 BV>>>>> unfortunately they will never do that.
 BV>>>>> and some good news 1 holland SOB (HN) have quit fido.
 BV>>>>> so we still have about 10 holland guy's to go and 1 Belgium SOB
 BV>>>>> untill, fidonet is clean of jerk's.

 SA>>>> Fidonet will never be clean of jerks until three certain zone
 SA>>>> one members toss their boots in and pass away.

 RW>>> As long as there's stupidity like Stewart's, there will always be
 RW>>> jerks in Fidonet like him.

 LL>> Who are more dangerous - The Stupids or The Crazies?  Nevermind
 LL>> that both The Stupids and The Crazies are jerks.  Nevermind that
 LL>> everybody else are also jerks.  Which group is more dangerous?

 LL>> Since that is a question that nobody can give a definitive answer,
 LL>> the bottom line is that stupid crazy jerks will always be amongst us,
 LL>> no matter what we do or where we go.

 SA>>>> * Origin: The RockBBS Auckland NZ 64-9-5799604 (3:772/100)

 RW>>> That should read 'Seagull Shit on The RockBBS'...

 LL>> Auckland is the City of Sails.  I will spare you the embarrassment
 LL>> by not reminding folks in this forum what your fair city is.

SA>Hehehe lol.

Whatever happened to the America's Cup?  Kiwis won it years ago,
but I haven't kept up with it.

--Lee

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