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Skriven 2004-10-12 13:37:00 av MICHEL SAMSON (1:10/345)
     Kommentar till en text av KERMIT SUPPORTERS
Ärende: SBBS/W32 Kermit SABOTAGE
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Hi everyone,

     About "SBBS/W32 Kermit setup" of October 12 (which should be titled
"SBBS/W32 Kermit SABOTAGE" by now):

MS> My name has been associated with it...  ...it's called SABOTAGE...
RS> I didn't "make" you do anything.  Heck, I didn't even *ask* you...
MR> I had a big problem...  Your response was "well it works here!"
MS> ...re-read the whole thread, starting from my very 1st post...
RS> ...the problem is the settings on the "sending" side...

     Two SysOps did bet on Rob's "experience".  This experiment on their
account only contributes to what i'm calling negative re-inforcement so,
i move it must be time for a better planed test-bench, for a change!  :>

RS> ...I can't fix something I can't reproduce.  HyperTerminal uploads
RS> just fine to both Synchronet-Win32 and Synchronet-Unix settings...

     How noble!  Rob is ready to reproduce more failures, as long as the
experiment remains his own.  Oh, and he forgot i warned about using some
3rd-party clients with archaic pre-1985 `Kermit' support, at that!  %-b,

     Well, the goal behind `Kermit' is UNIVERSALITY, not to prove how it
should be possible to improve Rob's configuration.  `HyperTerminal' will
NOT give optimum cps figures, `Zap-O-Com' is much more suitable (despite
the still relatively limited `Kermit' packet-size)!  Hummm...  But i did
explain it all already.  %-(  Since i got a complete record, here it is:

          http://public.sogetel.net/bicephale/Vert-801.QWK.ZIP  (284 Kb)

     There was a lot of noise on `OverNet' but the justifications can be
found throughout the turmoil, i don't need to endure this torture again.

     Oh, and speaking of torture...  People who appreciate controversial
stuff should notice that Rob now brings back to life an extinct thread i
was part of in the `FdN_Linux-BBS' echo, such reading can be found here:

          http://fidonet.sensationcontent.com/echomail/linux_bbs/

     Guess what, Rob Swindell wrote to Maurice Kinal a while ago, it was
titled "Kermit (Oh no not again)"...  To him, my "Kermit Evangelism" is,
euh...  "kinda weird".  %-b,  Well, put `Kermit.INI' and `HyperTerminal'
in the balance, with my late related posts and `Vert-801.QWK.ZIP' on the
other side, euh...  I begin to wonder which of evangelism or sabotage is
doing the most damage to an already dying hobby!  What a go Rob, if your
cards are good all efforts may go unoticed, `Kermit' should face hostile
preconceptions because of its apparent failures on `SBBS' and there just
won't be a good reason to keep ~TelNet~ BBSes alive since files transfer
is such a hasle!  Don't fix it once and for all, let it fail forever?...

RS> If Michael would remove...  ...high-lighting the exact settings that
RS> are different from mine...  ...I'd be happy to integrate them.

     Spoken like a true Borg (and he doesn't even watch `Star Trek')!  I
suppose it's too much asking that he respects my real name by the way...

RS> The remaining hundred or so lines in Michael's configuration file
RS> have nothing to do with transfering files.

     Bad memory seems to serve him, the extraneous "kruft" resulted from
a few Trials-and-Errors spread over years of *FRUSTRATING* "cooperation"
with SysOps (too demanding for my taste sometimes)...  Blind interfacing
between `SBBS' & `MS-kermit' won't satisfy me:  i'd attempt to establish
meaningful features without giving up on proper Error Traping - in order
to prevent False Message-Pointer UpDates, Hanged Sessions, etc...  Right
now, no reasonable SysOp should agree to expose his BBS by giving credit
to *FLAWED* setups like Rob's and i must warn the BBSers against it too.

     This isn't promoting `Kermit', much less UNIVERSALITY.  I call this
SABOTAGE since anyone who got into trouble because of such short-sighted
experience can only perpetuate `Kermit' preconceptions and never want to
use it again!  He seems proud of that "achievement" but i don't see why.

RS> ...there's a better chance for an FTP server in space than a BBS.

     Check it out, try to sit back and relax while reading this article:

          http://www.spacedaily.com/news/iss-03zq.html

     There may be no BBS in space but `MS-Kermit' has been there indeed.

                                                           Salutations,

                                                           Michel Samson
                                                           a/s Bicephale


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