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Skriven 2008-03-21 00:52:05 av mark lewis (1:3634/12.0)
   Kommentar till text 1166 av andrew clarke (3:633/267)
Ärende: Questions re: format of packed messages
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 ac> There is an echo called NET_DEV for these sorts of questions but I
 ac> haven't seen any traffic on it since 2006-02-01.  

NET_DEV has been dead for a long long time... i don't remember when i noticed
that it went away but i used to be a big participant in there... it really
started going away when all the developers left for that supposedly greener
grass on the internet side of the fence :?

 ac> Actually, now that I think about it I notice that my NET_DEV feed 
 ac> was through Bob Juge at 1:106/2000, whose system went down around 
 ac> that time and never resurfaced.  It looks like it took 
 ac> www.juge.com with it.

yes, it did...

 ac> Is NET_DEV still active anywhere?

i've still got it in my list of echos and it was, at one time, considered by
the backbone(s) as a "main fidonet echo" that should be carried no matter
what... whether this is stiff true or not, i dunno... especially with the
fragmentation of the backbones and the "disassociation" and "separation" of
some folk with any "backbone" but they still maintain their connections to and
distribution of backbone carried traffic...

 ac> Is Bob Juge still alive?

last i heard, yes... it was just a real sad day when m$'s XP monster forced a
reboot of his system after an update when it was configured to NOT do such...
that forced reboot caused his VM image of his OS/2 system to get corrupted and
there was no way to recover from it... and with all the work he had put into it
over the years? well, it was like having your favorite horse and long time
companion get lame on ya and have to be put down :(

 ac> I guess posting here is fine.  :-)

> (1) Is the *order* of kludge lines in a message important?

 ac> Your question was adequately answered by others, but it reminded me
 ac> of a proposal from Paul Edwards about 10 years ago.  

paul edwards! yeah... i knew i knew who did that ;)

 ac> I can't find it on the FTSC web site so perhaps it was never 
 ac> accepted, but basically it was a suggestion to put ^aSOT at the 
 ac> beginning of the message body and ^aEOT at the end, before the 
 ac> tearline (if any) and origin line (if any).  He was not satisfied 
 ac> with the way messages had to be parsed backwards to extract a 
 ac> message body, ignoring the tearline and origin. 

if he wrote a proposal, it should be in the FTSC library documents... i can't
recall if he did or not but i /think/ he did...

)\/(ark

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