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Text 13859, 42 rader
Skriven 2025-03-06 00:06:04 av Andrew Leary (1:320/219)
  Kommentar till text 13782 av Dan Clough (3625.fido_ftscpubl)
Ärende: Issues with running makenl for a region
===============================================
Hello Dan!

05 Mar 25 08:29, you wrote to Ward Dossche:

 DC> So this is the crux of my (original) question.  If it arrives without
 DC> a CRC, then one can assume that MakeNL was not used to produce the
 DC>  segment.  To repeat my original question, is MakeNL really needed?  A
 DC>  segment is just a text file that gets "processed" by MakeNL, and it
 DC>  sounds like all that MakeNL is actually doing is calculating a CRC.
 DC> Is that serving any valid purpose, especially now that we know the
 DC> validity of the CRC is ignored anyway?

MakeNL does more than just compute a CRC for the segment file.  It does some 
basic error checking of segments, to include insuring there are no duplicate 
node numbers in the segment, checking that any phone numbers have the correct 
number of parts, making sure that there are no invalid keywords, etc.

 DC> In other words, can't the *C's just edit their segments with their
 DC> text editor of choice, and then get it to the upstream *C via whatever
 DC> method they like (netmail or email)?  What role does MakeNL perform in
 DC> this process that actually matters?

MakeNL was designed to automate the submission process.  If you email or 
netmail the segment, the upstream coordinator most likely has to manually save 
it on their system in the proper place for MakeNL to find and process it. 
Sending it as a file attach to your coordinator is the best way to allow it to 
be processed automatically.   In fact, MakeNL's SUBmit directive in the .CTL 
file automates the creation of a file attach netmail to get the file where it 
needs to go.

It is certainly possible to edit a segment in a text editor, save it as an 
ASCII text file, and manually send it to your upstream coordinator by creating 
a file attach or copying it into a filebox directory, as appropriate for the 
mailer you are using.  In this case, you would lose the benefits of MakeNL 
error-checking your segment prior to submission.  Potentially this could cause 
your updates to be delayed if there is a typo or other error in your 
submission.

Andrew

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