Text 1781, 68 rader
Skriven 2008-03-28 18:46:28 av Fred Riccio (1:132/174)
   Kommentar till text 1724 av mark lewis (1:3634/12.0)
Ärende: Proper nodelist format for Internet-only nodes?
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Hello mark!

27 Mar 08 21:49, mark lewis wrote to Fred Riccio:

 SS>>> Why? What would be wrong with binkd if it were using the nodelist?

 RT>> Other than the inconsistencies, and "errors" nothing I guess ...

 FR>> A mailer doesn't have to directly use the St. Louis style nodelist.
 FR>> BinkleyTerm 2.x doesn't use it. 

 ml> it doesn't? shirley, you jest...

Don't call me Shirley! :-)

BinkleyTerm uses a version6 or version7 compiled nodelist.  All the information
it needs is contained in this file.  There is no reason to have the nodelist
available once it is compiled.

BinkD uses BINKD.TXT to contact other nodes.  The data contained in that file
is extracted from the fido nodelist.  Everything BinkD needs is in that file. 
There is no need to keep the nodelist around once BINKD.TXT is built.

BinkD is following a practice that mailers before it used.  THere is nothing
wrong with it simply because it "doesn't know about the nodelist".


 FR>> I'm sure some of the other mailers from days done by didn't need 
 FR>> the nodelist either.  

 ml> what, then, are its indexes built from?

Some mailers, I think FrontDoor was one of them, created indexes into the
nodelist for faster lookups.  Others like BinkleyTerm use a completely
different file.


 FR>> What they DO use is a compiled version.  Binkley.Txt and Argus.Txt
 FR>> can be considered forms of compiled NodeLists...  

 ml> and therein lies the problem :( "can be considered"...

I don't see what the "problem" is here.  Substitute "is" for "can be
considered" if you must.


 ml> /me shakes head sadly as yet another figures out some way to justify 
 ml> things :?

I'm not trying to justify anything.  Just pointing out that there were other
mailers that do not directly access the nodelist.


 FR>> Run the conversion program against the current Nodelist and out 
 FR>> comes a file that BinkD can use.   

 ml> yeah... and FrontDoor also uses an index into the nodelist... that 
 ml> this index contains some information that does not have to be 
 ml> retrieved directly from the nodelist does not negate the fact that 
 ml> the nodelist is necessary on the system...

For some mailers that is true.  For others it is not.

Regards,
Fred

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