Text 3120, 76 rader
Skriven 2008-04-15 10:49:46 av Janis Kracht (1:261/38)
   Kommentar till text 3111 av Ward Dossche (2:292/854)
Ärende: Re: Proper nodelist format for Internet-only nodes?
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Hello Ward,

>> ....  That is only your _opinion_, Werner.

>> It doesn't quote the way a good editor editor would quote, but it is not
>> broken.

>> "Broken" might mean that every time Carol ran the program, it crashed, or
>> segfaulted, or didn't quote at all.

> That is only your _opinion_, Janis.

No, it is not my "opinion".  I know what 'broken software' (?), or buggy
software is. I've been involved in the business at a professional level for
years. But you know that Ward... you know that Ron and I have been professional
programmers for years, because you met us here in the states <grin>.

> I'm amazed that an author actually dares to release something like that
> and  gets away with ...
>But I understand ...
>it's a remark emanating from zone-2,
>you feel the need to  help a friend and ...

Amazing you don't comment about Kim's software :)  But I think both author's
have done an amazing job and I would never crab or complain about their work. I
joke a lot about BBBS to people but I happily registered it and suggest BBBS to
others when I think it's appropriate :) I think Kim did a great job, and so did
Rob Swindell.

>> ... It is possible to understand the context of the sentances
>> that are printed however if you read them and know English.

> Oh yes, it's the language thing again ... We don't understand proper English
> here.

Nothing to do with language generally... but in this case, I think it is a
problem.  Look at how he states the problem... a "broken" package" because
words are chopped off the ends of a sentance.. what does that tell you?  He
cannot get the context of a sentance from the main words of the sentance.  It's
not such a big deal.. but it's obvious that it is the problem for him.

>> But look at Rob Swindell's work (SBBS) that you are talking about.. SBBS
>> is Freeware.. Totally free.. Rob doesn't charge a penny for it. and you
>> want to
>> 'weed it out' because the editor is faulty.. geez..  Good idea.  You go
>> for Werner.

> D'Bridge is freeware too. Nick doesn't charge a penny for it. When errors or
> problems surface Nick Andre _always_ listens and _always_ tries to deal with
> them. He takes bug reports, corrections and suggestions for enhancements
> serious.

Of course he does.. Nick is a great guy :)  but regarding SBBS...First of all,
Rob takes care of _bugs_ as well, there are very live echos in Fidonet today to
prove that one :)  Take a look someday :)

Second of all, you can't compare a _bbs_ program and _Mailer_... apples and
oranges, Ward.... Two different Animals :)  Matter of fact, SBBS lets people
swap out the editor in question with another editor.. should they choose to...
just like most bbs programs do. :) How is that "broken"??  How is that
"buggy"??

> The product of an author who does not do that is not 'freeware', it is
> 'abandonware' and eventually will become 'brokenware'.

What a joke :) It's very alive and in use, and very frequently updated.

> Yes, I know ... that is my opinion.

I'm glad you said that, not me  :)

Take care,
Janis

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