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Skriven 2013-12-10 12:34:51 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
     Kommentar till en text av mark lewis (1:3634/12.71)
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Hello mark,

On Monday December 09 2013 10:38, you wrote to me:

 MvdV>> Some others will see the characters properly displayed on their
 MvdV>> screen, some will see garbage, depending on their
 MvdV>> configuration. Either way they will be able to copy and paste
 MvdV>> the names, but they will not know how to pronounce them.

 ml> and when the letters are pasted, they are very likely to be mangled

Fidonet is an 8 bit transparent medium. It is agnostic with respect to the
character encoding schemes deployded in messages. If names are mangled up it is
because of poorly configured or designed end user software.

 ml>            i see it way too many times here when i try to paste stuff
 ml> from the internet into documents... in many cases, i have to resort to
 ml> another method of gathering the information...

I rarely have problems. Maybe it is because I have been dealing with languages
other than US English for well over half a century end hence dealt with
alphabets other than the US ASCII character set.  Or maybe it is because the
Internet has seen the light and moved mostly to UTF-8 and all text processing
software other than stone age stuff can handle that. Even my stone age WIN98
can deal with it...

Their was a time when we were satisfied with 0-9 and capitals A-Z  only. If we
were to reason like you we would still be writing on ASR33 teletypes in
capitals only.

But the world has moved on and not only has the capitals only rule been broken,
so has the US ASCII only rule.

Let me ask yo this: "Do you think it is fair that you and I, can have our names
in the nodelist exactly as it is spelled in our native language and that Björn
and Alexey can not"? Is that fair? Is that treating everyone as equal?
Considering that the technical issues that imposed those restrained have long
ago been solved in the world outside Fidonet?


Cheers, Michiel

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