Text 7146, 47 rader
Skriven 2014-01-08 13:10:56 av Nicholas Boel (1:154/701)
   Kommentar till text 7116 av Bjrn Felten (2:203/2)
Ärende: all over but the crying?
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Hello Bjrn,

On 07 Jan 14 08:17, Bjrn Felten wrote to Nicholas Boel:

 NB>> It would at least be nice if some of the most popular editors of
 NB>> today's FTN age could display the characters properly. The fact
 NB>> that noone wants to do anything about it kind of baffles me,
 NB>> though.

 BF>    Maybe not over at your side of the pond, but over here there's been
 BF> a lot being done about it.

What, exactly? I'm interested in taking a look at any currently maintained 
software that's up to today's standards.

 BF>    Even 20 years ago, the FrontDoor editor (FE.EXE) handled the most
 BF> common CHRS kludges correctly. And a JamNNTPd/T-bird combo comes a
 BF> long way.

A long way from what? JamNNTPd still doesn't have good UTF-8 support. It uses 
the same translation tables as Golded+. It even says in the documentation that 
whatever UTF-8 readability with JamNNTPd is a complete hack, and that you 
still have to keep the ISO-8859-1 readability otherwise it will mangle the 
FROM field. Posting in UTF-8 is a completely different story. I've gotten 
"Unsupported charset: UTF-8" quite a few times from my JamNNTPd server setup.

Also, while doing some reading up on the JamNNTPd docs the other day, I 
noticed what _might_ be a possible fix for your headers not being the same as 
your message body. Try commenting out the "noencode" option and see if that 
works. Just an idea, as it was the only thing that mentioned anything about 7 
and 8 bit headers.

 BF>    One of the reasons Johan Billing wrote the JamNNTPd program was in
 BF> fact to free Fidonet from the archaic FTN editor's stranglehold, and
 BF> move the problem solving to the very active internet developers.

Unfortunately it didn't free Fidonet completely. If it uses the same 
translation tables as Golded+, it still has the same limitations as what we've 
been talking about in regards to Golded+ as well. I can at least read and 
write in UTF-8 since I am on a full UTF-8 console, but anything in regards to 
Golded+ and/or JamNNTPd are still lacking in that category.

Regards,
Nick

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