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Skriven 2014-08-24 00:19:00 av Bill McGarrity (1344.2ftscpubl)
     Kommentar till en text av mark lewis (1:3634/12.71)
Ärende: Re: @CODES
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-=> On 08-23-14 20:34, mark lewis wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-

Hiua Mark...

 BM> I agree, but from what DM said Synch will convert IF your user #
 BM> is 1, which I take it you are.  My issue that I am having right
 BM> now is using SMBUTIL to post a message using those codes and even
 BM> when I use the fix that DM said to use, the -e1 option, still not
 BM> working correctly.

 ml> i think what is being missed is that the conversion of the @-codes
 ml> is not done at posting time but at reading time when the message
 ml> is displayed to each user... what you are looking for is that the
 ml> @-codes are interpreted at posting time and the results of the
 ml> interpretation are posted instead of the actual @-codes...
 ml> opposite sides of the same fence...

 BM> At the time of the posting using SMBUTIL, the message should have
 BM> been converted when I read it in the specific echo after it was
 BM> uploaded when I telnet into the board.

 ml> that's what i'm saying seems to be misunderstood... if #1 posts the
 ml> message then everyone will see the @-codes converted /when they view
 ml> the message/... in other words, the raw message contents still contain
 ml> the @-codes and not the results which are only translated into place
 ml> when the message is viewed...

Yes, everyone should see the converted message and you are also correct the raw
txt message contains the @-codes.  

 ml> maybe you might have to write a conversion tool to convert the
 ml> codes before posting as you are desiring?? basically a template
 ml> interpreter that generates the finalized text file that smbutil
 ml> will post...

 BM> According to Rob, the -e1 switch will do the conversion being it
 BM> stipulates that I am the sysop.  No other user has that option.

 ml> i haven't been able to read it like that... have you been able to post
 ml> your test message to a local area and have the code converted as you
 ml> desire? if yes, then go look at the raw message file for that area and
 ml> see if the actual @-codes are still in the message or if they have been
 ml> converted... i'm willing to bet a beer that the @-codes are still in
 ml> the raw message and that sync does the conversion/translation when the
 ml> message is viewed... that's just the way i've been understanding
 ml> everything i've been reading in this topic...

He just added the explaination to the wiki regarding the -e1 option the other
evening after I brought this to his attention. Synch will only translate the
raw @-codes for user #1 and no other.  Using SMBUTIL, according to Rob, I
should be able to import a message into any sub I am doing now for NHL rules
and the bbs ad.  Neither of those use the @-codes and everything works out
wonderful.  Now, to import a message using the @-codes, I must tell SMBUTIL I
am #1 (the -e1 option).  This is what is not working.  I want to try one more
thing with with the header and see if that works.

 ml> i can also understand why posting it in other message areas to appear
 ml> on other bbses won't work since their user#1 is different than the one
 ml> on your system... that also points to the translation being done at
 ml> view time... you'll probably see the same results if you post it to a
 ml> dovenet area... it might read fine on your system since your user#1
 ml> posted it but on everyone else's system it would show the @-codes...

Not according to Rob.  Translation is done by SMBUTIL and will post the
information that corresponds with each partiular @-code.

 ml> as above, i think what you are trying to do will end up with a template
 ml> containing the @-codes which will be processed by a tool which will
 ml> output a text file with the codes translated to the info you desire and
 ml> that text file will then be posted by your posting tool...

Which is exactly what SMBUTIL is supposed to do... :)


Thanks for the input.


Bill

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