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Skriven 2007-08-01 07:00:41 av Thom LaCosta (1:261/1352.0)
   Kommentar till text 1830 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
Ärende: any geratol net folks lur
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Michiel van der Vlist wrote in a message to Thom LaCosta:


 MvdV> That reminds me of discussions I had with HAMs about QSL cards
 MvdV> for contacts made via a repeater. I have always refused to qsl
 MvdV> contacts made via a repeater. I was the caretaker of the local 2m
 MvdV> repeater PI3PYR from (I think) 1983 to 1995. I often had the
 MvdV> following conversation;

<snip>

 MvdV> qsl card. We could go to a simplex frequency if you like..
 MvdV> PA0XYZ: Eh.. I am working with a 2 Watt handheld in a rubber
 MvdV> duck, I can't make a direct contact with you.
 MvdV> PA0MMV: That is why I do not qsl repeater contacts, you have not
 MvdV> made a contact with my station and you are unable to.
 MvdV> PA0XYZ: But.. but.. but....
 MvdV> Pa0MMV: Sorry, no card from PA0MMV....
 MvdV> However... It so happens that I am the caretaker of the repeater,
 MvdV> and you *did* make a contact with the repeater. I *can* send you
 MvdV> a card form PI3PYR confirming that you contacted repeater station
 MvdV> PI3PYR. On the card you will find info for making donations...

 MvdV> Some times that resulted in a donation. Some times not...


I think I would have done the same thing.....there are several repeaters here
that I no longer monitor....there is so much echolink stuff that you don't hear
much local communications.

 TL> Sounds fascinating....were all the participants hams?

 MvdV> Of course. They had to be. Here in The Netherlands (and most
 MvdV> other European countries) third party traffic is a no-no. License
 MvdV> conditions do not allow it, with a very few exceptions. JOTA
 MvdV> operations being one of them. 

 MvdV> The "no third party traffic" is one of the reasons why "Fido over
 MvdV> Ham radio" was a closed alley here.

Makes sense....I guess.  Here we have great latitude, and it allows hams to get
good PR and provide public services.

 MvdV> channel? Not by using an advanced type of modem but by *skipping*
 MvdV> the modem. I just fed the bit stream directly into the modulator
 MvdV> of the TX end retrieved them directly from the discrimator of the
 MvdV> RX. skipping all the audio circuits. In fact the TX and RX
 MvdV> themselves had become an FSK modem. Mark 144.610, space 144.615.
 MvdV> Worked like a charm. ;-) 

 MvdV> I still do not understand why no one followed up on that
 MvdV> principle and everyone is still using "modems" that plug into the
 MvdV> mike input of the TX and and phone output of the RX...

Interesting idea...I don't think I've ever heard of it before....

 TL> Did I recall that you no longer get on HF?

 MvdV> That is right. I have not been active on HF for quit a while now.
 MvdV> I still want to get that antenna up again, but somehow I never
 MvdV> get around to it. Something else with higher priority always pops
 MvdV> up.

Yes....I've been down that route, but now that I dropped a hunk of money on a
new HF rig, I really can no longer put off the antenna issue.  I have quite a
bit of information on limited space, easy to erect, etc. antenna at
www.zerobeat.net/g3ycc/  

Yep....
 MvdV> In three weeks we will hook up the trailer and head for Bad
 MvdV> Bentheim, Germany. Big HAM fest. Only missed it once in all those
 MvdV> years. 

I recall some of your previous posts about the ham fest(s).  Sounds
interesting....I don't go to many hamfests here....there is usually a conflict
between them and some music events...and the music wins out.



cya,
thom
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