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Skriven 2009-02-20 19:34:16 av Ed Hulett (1:123/789.0)
   Kommentar till text 2892 av God Dan (1:138/666.0)
Ärende: A minor post-scrpt---.
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God Dan -> Ed Hulett wrote:
 ->> On 18 Feb 09  12:53:19, Ed Hulett got back to God Dan
 ->> Re: A minor post-scrpt---.

 EH>>> the Bible) found in the Book of Mormon is more than evidence that the
 EH>>> BoM is real. Chiasmus isn't something a young, farm boy from Vermont
 EH>>> could duplicate.

 GD>> You call that evidence?

 EH>> It *IS* evidence.

 GD>> And, you fail to remeber that Smith was a con man.

 EH>> He was no such thing. That is rumor spread by your anti-Mormon
 EH>> sources.

 GD> You mean like the Mormons themselves?

 GD> (1) In an 1859 interview, Martin Harris, one of the three witnesses to the
 GD> Book of Mormon plates, stated that in Oct 1826 Joseph Smith had been
 GD> approached by an angel and told to "quit the company of the
money-diggers."

An out of context quote 12 years after Smith's death means what?

 GD> (2) David Whitmer, another of the three witnesses, wrote: "I will now give
you
 GD> a description of the manner in which the Book of Mormon was translated.
 GD> Joseph Smith would put the seer stone into a hat, and put his face in the
hat,
 GD> drawing it closely around his face to exclude the light; and in the
darkness
 GD> the spiritual light would shine.  A piece of something resembling
parchment
 GD> would appear, and on that appeared the writing.  One character at a time
would
 GD> appear, and under it was the interpretation in English.  Brother Joseph
would
 GD> read off the English to Oliver Cowdery, who was his principle scribe, and
when
 GD> it was written down and repeated to Brother Joseph to see if it was
correct,
 GD> then it would disappear, and another character with the interpretation
would
 GD> appear."

A third person narrative?

 GD> Also significant are the affadavits and statements made by a number of
Smith's
 GD> neighbors in Palmyra, about Smith's lifestyle in the 1820's.  Several
 GD> neighbors have stated that Joseph Smiths Senior and Junior were both
 GD> money-diggers, and that Jr.  (i.e.  the Mormon founder) was particularly
good
 GD> at it and was the head of a group of money-diggers.

Hahahahahahahahahaha!!!!

The very people who tried to steal the plates from Smith are now unbiased
sources?

 GD> In late 1825 a wealthy Pennsylvania farmer named Josiah Stowell (sometimes
 GD> spelled Stoal) came 150 miles to hire Smith because of Smith's reputation.
 GD> Smith was hired to help Stowell locate a supposed old Spanish silver mine
on
 GD> Stowell's farm.  During this time two significant things happened.  First,
 GD> Smith met his future wife, Emma Hale, and in later interviews her father
 GD> explained how he didn't like Joseph Smith when he first met him because
Smith
 GD> was a money-digger, and Mr.  Hale didn't want any criminals marrying his
 GD> daughter!  Perhaps even more damaging, however, was the fact that Smith
was
 GD> tried and convicted in court in March 1826 for "glass-looking".  The
charge
 GD> had been brought up by Stowell's nephew, who saw through the con that his
 GD> uncle didn't.  Mormon historians now acknowledge that this trial
 GD> happened and that Smith was convicted on this charge.

What is your source for this?

Ed

-- 
"The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is
to fill the world with fools." --Herbert Spencer

"The principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under
the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale."
 --Thomas Jefferson

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