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Skriven 2006-11-16 14:29:30 av MATT CLARK (1:123/140)
     Kommentar till en text av GOD DAN
Ärende: GOD AND 'RATIONALITY'
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-> 
->  -> Be the first on your block to give a rational reason why your
omnipotent 
->  -> god allows evil to exist.
-> 
->  MC> I think it has something to do with free will.
-> 
->  MC> There is no rational reason. Believing in God is not rational. And
->  MC> believing
->  MC> there is NO god is not rational because you only have a sliver of
->  MC> knowledge  to go on. And who says believing in God has to be
rational? 
-> 
-> There's no good reason to conclude a god exists.  

Wrong again.  If there is no God, then right and wrong are only an opinion.
Therefore one could rape, rob, molest children and if anyone objects they 
can always say...well gee wiz, there is no god so who gives a rat's behind 
what you think?

->And, thanks for admitting that a belief in god is not rational.  

 Which neither helps your case or mine.  You have no rational reason to 
deny that there is an intelligent creator out there...esp in light of all 
the glaring evidence staring you right in the face.  You are just as
irrational.

-> 
->  MC> Someone who is 99% in the dark about most things, just like the
rest
->  MC> of us?  In case you haven't noticed yet, life is a mystery. And
your
->  MC> science books  haven't even scratched the surface. 'Rational' is
->  MC> something that only works  in the physical world and even then it
is
->  MC> rife with inconsistencies. 
-> 
-> Thus, you relegate your god to superstition.  

Not at all.  I make such a determination from the creation of life and the
workings of my (and humanity's) inner most being.

-> Worse, you leave the 
-> persuit of such an entity to simple belief.  You even seem to relish 
-> in the back that you know so little. 

And what makes you sure there is no intelligent creator?  Share your wealth 
of knowledge with us. 

-> 
->  MC> Do you have a book on the 'rules' of rationality?   Who wrote it? 
->  MC> If rationality is your bible then take a good look around you and
see 
->  MC> what 'rational minds' have done to this world.
-> 
-> What bible?  There are so many to choose from. 

You have a reading problem. I asked if 'rationality' was your bible.

-> 
->  MC> It's real easy to crap all over the beliefs of others. It's a lot
->  MC> harder to follow your own beliefs.  Assuming you have any at all.
->  MC> Time to grow up, 'God Dan'.
-> 
-> I'm not the one that needs a sky daddy to explain things.

Neither do animals.
  
-> 
->  MC> God created what you preceive as evil to teach people like you a
->  MC> lesson. Don't worry, he+she created it to set me straight too.
-> 
-> You have the cart before the horse.  You need to provide evidence that 
-> such a being exists to have any credibilty. 

Not at all. I simply let people like your self keep the outlook on life 
that best suits their existence.


-> 
->  MC> I think Bin laden is evil. Bin laden thinks we are evil. Some
rational
->  MC> minds think OBL is right. Other rational minds think we are right.
->  MC> Who's really right?
-> 
-> Rationality has nothing to do with good or evil.  

Empty claim.  Now you get to explain yourself. And are you now saying there
is no rational reason to be good?  No rational reason to fight evil?
Thanks for that insight.  Keep talking Mr. 'god dan'.


-> 
->  MC> Apparently 'evil' is a device that helps us grow out of this silly
->  MC> forsaken  world.   Click?
-> 
-> Why create little toys if all one is going to do is destroy all 
-> those little toys?  

There must be a reason because here we are.  You seem to think that by
throwing all sorts of riddles at me, and that if I can't answer all of them 
that somehow you have just proven God does not exist.


-> 
->  -> You have 2 choices:  
-> 
->  MC> Wrong again. Only a moron has two choices.
-> 
-> I see that my choicesd have you so flustered that you couldn't 
-> even bear to re-quote them. 

I see you're so frustrated that you invent excuses to convince yourself 
that your little riddles actually amount to something. 

I can conceed that no one can 'prove' the existance of God for anyone else.
You on the other hand are obviously livid of the fact that you can't even 
begin to prove that God does not exist. 

Not being able to see God with your eyeballs or hear God with your ears is 
hardly proof of anything.

I think you deny god, by necessity, because you are scared witless of the 
idea that anyone knows what you're all about. ie.Someone who doesn't
believe
in god but uses 'god' in his name.
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