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Skriven 2006-11-17 12:10:56 av JOHNJWILSON (1:123/140)
     Kommentar till en text av GOD DAN
Ärende: GOD AND 'RATIONALITY'
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->  -> There's no good reason to conclude a god exists.  
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-> The answer is so simple that it alludes you.  
-> 
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-> Got evidence of a god?  Any god?

Do you have any evidence that in man's history any society existed without
some declaration of trust in God? Got any loose change?
 
-> 
-> All of your "evidence" is wild speculation.

FAR more important than thinking asking for evidence is other than
point-missing, is trying to determine if She is benign :-) 
  
 
->  -> Thus, you relegate your god to superstition.  
->
(..as Paul noted of the Athenians, with approval...)
 
->  MC> Not at all.  I make such a determination from the creation of life
and
->  MC> the workings of my (and humanity's) inner most being.
-> 
-> Which what?  Started in 4004 BC?  
-> 
Now, now. The Good Bishop went to a TON of trouble compiling
the Biblical info that led him to that conclusion...
...and Science thought that blood-letting was keen.
->  
->  -> Worse, you leave the 
->  -> persuit of such an entity to simple belief.  You even seem to relish 
->  -> in the back that you know so little.

Humility when it comes to things theological is a GOOD thing :-)


-> 
->  MC> And what makes you sure there is no intelligent creator?  Share
your
->  MC> wealth  of knowledge with us. 
->  
-> Provide the evidence that one exists.  Be the first on your block to 
-> back up your claim with testable evidence of its existance.  
->
The test is subjective, as are many excperiences.
Prove to me that love exists.
 
  
 
->  -> What bible?  There are so many to choose from. 
->
I've read several. I believe in all of them.

Krishna advice to Arjuna...
Gautama's advice to Amanda...
Lao Tse's view of he world...
(Just off hand...Thomas a Kempus...

Any one will do :-)

 
->  MC> You have a reading problem. I asked if 'rationality' was your
bible.
-> 
-> What bible?  You claim the unnamed bible has evidence.  You tell me
which 
-> is the "One trVe bible" and we'll take it from there.

They are ALL "true". I have come to believe that there is more truth
in 'poems' than  prose, As much truth in Art as in Science...
 
->  ->  MC> It's real easy to crap all over the beliefs of others. It's a
lot
->  ->  MC> harder to follow your own beliefs.  Assuming you have any at
all.
->  ->  MC> Time to grow up, 'God Dan'.
->  -> 
->  -> I'm not the one that needs a sky daddy to explain things.

Maaayyybeeeee. :-)

Science is Knowledge. Knowing sets you free.
If you are not bound, you don't NEED freedom.

'Sky Daddy' is not a need, but a convenience.OK, some would say
an essential. Some people make it a life-guide, thinking that life is a
gift, doing good is showing appreciation...
-> 
->  MC> Neither do animals.
-> 
-> Of course not.  They know better than to beleive in the unbeleivable.

Or havn't decided to consider the question :-)

  
-> 
->  ->  MC> God created what you preceive as evil...

Yeppers. 'what you perceive'. Important.

->  -> 
->  -> You have the cart before the horse.  You need to provide evidence
that 
->  -> such a being exists to have any credibilty.

The evidence is in a life lived. When he dies, we'll gather around, look at
the documednts, and judge as to whether his bilef has any'credibility'.:-)
 
-> 
->  MC> Not at all. I simply let people like your self keep the outlook on
->  MC> life  that best suits their existence.
->  
-> You want me to believe in something that you can't show exists.

Love. Art. Curiosity. Consciousnes!

The Dialogue with Self.
  
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