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Text 3967, 101 rader
Skriven 2009-04-01 02:45:07 av Ed Hulett (1:123/789.0)
   Kommentar till text 3956 av Ross Sauer (1:123/789.0)
Ärende: Mormon custom
=====================
Ross Sauer -> JOHNJWILSON wrote:
 RS> "JOHNJWILSON -> ED HULETT" <1:123/140> wrote in
 RS> news:8051$HOLYSMOKE@JamNNTPd:

 J>> And as far as religious symbolism is concerned I believe an individual
 J>> reminder of one's religion is far superior to an outer garment
 J>> proclaiming it to others.

 RS> Which reminds me all this noise about the "magic undewear" is just
 RS> noise.

 RS> It's obvious these are sacred garments to some, *NOT* all Mormons.

They are sacred to all endowed members (those who have entered the Temple).

 RS> Just as some Jews don't wear that little Jewish beanie.

 RS>  From this site:

 RS> http://www.mormon-underwear.com/

 RS> Dan, *END* of this discussion, please.

 RS> Mormon Underwear

 RS> Welcome to MormonUnderwear.com. This is an informational site to about
 RS> mormon underwear (mormon garments), what they are, and why mormon's wear
 RS> them. There are many sites on the internet about mormon underwear that
 RS> have incorrect information. This site is set up to give real
 RS> explanations and answer the real questions that you have.

 RS> The terms "underwear" or "undergarments" are routinely used in the
 RS> garment industry, and retailers have entire departments and stores that
 RS> sell these items. To most people, undergarments or underwear are thought
 RS> of only as another article of clothing. However, if you mention the word
 RS> "garments" to your mormon friend or neighbor, you'll get an entirely
 RS> different reaction.

 RS> To millions of Mormons around the world, garments are a special piece of
 RS> clothing worn as a symbolic gesture of the promises that they have made
 RS> to God. The garment is always worn under other clothing, next to the
 RS> skin. For most people who wear it, the garment takes the place of
 RS> regular underwear. (For this reason, some people refer to the garment as
 RS> Mormon undergarments or as Mormon underwear. Most LDS prefer simply
 RS> using the term "garment" instead.)

 RS> The garment is directly related to Mormon temples. It is there that
 RS> faithful members first receive the garment after individual instruction
 RS> on what it stands for and how it should be cared for. The garment is
 RS> worn as part of a special ceremony called the temple endowment. The
 RS> garment is worn at all times (day and night) by members as a constant
 RS> reminder of the promises they have made to God in the Temple to be
 RS> honest and faithful to the commandments of the Lord.

 RS> Religious Clothing

 RS> Mormons are not unique in the wearing of special clothing for religious
 RS> purposes. Perhaps the most well-known example is the yarmulke, which is
 RS> worn at special times by many Jewish men or at all times by devout
 RS> orthodox Jews. Similarly, in some religions a minister or priest will
 RS> wear a special collar that has religious significance, or nuns may wear
 RS> special clothing that signifies the religious order to which they
 RS> belong. In all cases the special clothing reflects the religious
 RS> conviction of the wearer.

 RS> There is also a historical precedent for wearing religious clothing. In
 RS> fact, Adam and Eve wore clothing that was made for them by God before
 RS> they left the Garden of Eden. Genesis 3:21 states that "unto Adam also
 RS> and to his wife did the Lord God make coats of skins, and clothed them."
 RS> Mormons believe that such clothing was provided as part of the religious
 RS> instruction provided to Adam and Eve by God. This is the same context in
 RS> which Mormons receive the garment--as part of the religious instruction
 RS> contained within the temple endowment.

 RS> Other religious figures throughout history have also worn special
 RS> clothing as they performed their religious duties. For instance, Moses
 RS> was commanded by the Lord (as recorded in Exodus 28:1-3) to place holy
 RS> garments and priestly vestments upon Aaron and others in preparation for
 RS> officiating in the tabernacle.

 RS> (End of post)

 RS> So they aren't "magic," but some consider them sacred. Big deal.

Ceppa is the only one calling them magic. He's obsessed with them.

Ed

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