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Skriven 2006-11-18 04:13:40 av MATT CLARK (1:123/140)
     Kommentar till en text av GOD DAN
Ärende: 'MEAT' YOUR MAKER
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The original message got zapped (damn mouse) so he it is again, with a few 
edits and corrections in spelling, just in case you missed it here at 
http://docsplace.tzo.com.  I changed the title.
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MC>  More like sitting in a corner amusing yourself with
MC>  your own imagination. 

GD>  I'm not the one imagining all powerful beings 
GD>  that enjoy watching  people die.  

  Again, with this 'enjoy' stuff.  That also is yet another example of
your rather demented view on matters.   'Death' is something that only
occurs to the physical shells we inhabit with our minds and souls.



  MC> Where are you getting 'enjoy' from.  Oh yes, that imagination of
  MC> yours, like I just said.  Keep talking, Mr.god dan.

GD>   Oh, so your god doesn't give a rats ass about 
GD>   what happens to his creations then.  

That also is just your demented view.  Get help before it's too late. 
Whoops!    Too late.


MC>  People like you have no sense of right and wrong..

GD>  Oh, really?  

You make that case with almost every one of your posts.  Actually your
entire mannerism is quite senile...and you've yet to even make an
attempt to explain your side.  In essence, all you've done is ask for
evidence, while ignoring all the evidence in this world and universe.



MC>  Since you feel God doesn't exist, what's wrong with 
MC>  killing anyone?  After all, they're just walking 
MC>  pieces of meat with no souls.

GD>  Once again, you avoid the very simple answer:  
GD>  If you don't want others to kill you, you don't 
GD>  start off by killing them.  

That is a selfish reason.  Again, how do you explain that it's wrong to
kill people?   Sure, you don't want to be killed because you're selfish. 
We all are in that respect.  But who cares about what you want?   What's
WRONG with killing?  After all, if we subscribe to your atheistic view
then you're nothing but a piece of meat with no soul.   So what's wrong
if I chop you up into pig feed?   Because you don't want it to happen? 
So what?  You're just a stupid piece of meat with no soul.  Right?
Why is it wrong to chop up meat?

Apparently the atheist's 'view', is really nothing more than an
estimation of them self:  A stupid piece of meat with no soul.  And if
you're just a stupid piece of meat then there's really nothing wrong
with turning you into pork chops.    No?   You mean you're more than 
just a piece of meat that can talk?  How can that be??  (I believe 
this is where you get to say 'duh' to the nice folks out there.)




MC>  And for your information, just as many, if not more 
MC>  people have died at  the hands of atheists.  
  
GD>  Try again.  Religion has been the cause of more 
GD>  deaths than any other cause ever.  

World Wars One & Two were not fought over religion.   Neither was the
Civil War, or the War for Independence, or the Spanish American War.
All the Russian wars of the 19th and 20th centuries and the Russian
Revolution were not. The wars between France and England were not fought
over religion. The wars between China and Japan were not.  All the wars
fought by Indians over hunting ground, territory, etc were not fought
over religion. 

Again, the bulk of all wars were not fought over religion.
And you've got nothing but scant examples in ancient history to
challenge that fact.  Just the usual left-wing, mad at the world
attitude. 

ie.Name the last war that was fought OVER religion, Tell us how long
ago it occurred and tell us approximately how many people were killed.
If you take more than a couple of days to answer this we'll know you had
to go hunt for an answer...one you didn't have a clue about in the first
place before you opened that squeaky left wing trap.



MC>  while you crap on the hopes, beliefs and aspirations 
MC>  of other people. 

GD>  Who's crapping on their hopes or aspirations?  

MC>  Like I just said, people like you, just as you've demonstrated,
MC>  several  times now.  Work on the memory problem.

GD>  Stop projecting your need to get rid of everything that doesn't 
GD>  fit your myopic religious views and trying to pawn them off 
GD>  on the non-believers.  

Sorry, I haven't tried to get rid of anything.  You're the one going
around making fun of religious belief. ie.God raped Mary, etc.
Again, work on the memory problem.



GD>  Oh, yeah:  That the religious groups that look undkindly ...

MC>  Wrong once again. Most religious people try to spread the word. 
MC>  It's people  like yourself that hit bottom when they do.

GD>  The word is still being sporead with a sword.

What country are you from and what century are you living in?
8th century Iran?  It's atheists like Stalin who had no reservations
about killing anyone.  After all, the 'proletariate' are just walking
pieces of meat with no souls..  Right Mr. 'god dan'?




GD>  ...at independent thought.  

MC>  Independent thought?  From you??   I've seen no such 
MC>  thing coming from you.  Just the usual reliance on 
MC>  those you expect to provide physical proof. Nothing more. 
MC>  Your no account approach doesn't even begin to prove your case.

GD>  IOW, you trust your belief to be real with absolutely no evidence 
GD>  of anything to back it up.  Too bad for you.

The evidence is all around you.  Starting with the Universe and all the
life that has emerged out of it.  You refuse to look any farther than
the pages of a science book, and believe me, I'm giving you a lot of
credit by assuming you've gotten past high school biology.   Religion
goes beyond the limits of mundane science for the answer.  All people
like yourself can do is suck it all up and wont (refuse to) look any
further.  Real independent thinking.




MC>  I never claimed I could prove anything.  You're the one who's
MC>  demanding proof...all the while you can't live up to your own

GD>  Until you provide evidence why should I belive a 
GD>  thing you say about your 3 in one oily god?  

I never said you "should".  What I did say is that you can't live up to
your own standards and explain your view. You can't because you
OBVIOUSLY don't have one, because you don't have a clue and apparently
you're just not smart enough to entertain much of anything.  Work on
the reading problem.




MC>  At least religious people make an attempt to explain God.

GD>  Explain why your All Powerful Omnipotent God allows 
GD>  innocent people to suffer.

Whether he allows it or not does not change the fact that religious people 
make an attempt to explain and does not prove or disprove anything.
All you're doing is ignoring that and throwing the same inane questions at 
me.  Again work on the reading problem.  Maybe if you didn't huff and puff 
on you're screen you could see what's been written.



MC>  . All you've done is sit there waiting for someone to
MC>   spoon feed you physical proof about something that 
MC>   is beyond physical.


GD>  Daisy, the Invisible Pink Hippo, is shitting on 
GD>  your head as we speak. 

 Whew! Get a load of your choice of question. OK, since there is no crap
appearing on anyone's head, Daisy doesn't exist.  If crapt started to 
appear out of nowhere on people's head, then your claim about daisy might 
amount to something.  Try another angle.

We claim there is God because of the creation of the universe and all
the intelligent life that has emerged from it.  Unlike your daisy and
your shit model we base our claims on tangible evidence, ie. on the 
creation of life, among other things.



MC>  If you're so sure God doesn't exist then you must have 
MC>  'something' of YOUR OWN to show for.  You don't.  
MC>  All you've done is bark at those who  have made such efforts.  
MC>  Real 'independent'.


GD>   I just gave you Daisy.  Prove She doesn't exist.  

What you gave us is a moronic gut reaction that avoids trying to explain
your side.  Face it bright guy.  You have no idea at all about anything 
along these lines. Again all you've done is crap on the ideas and beliefs 
of others and have nothing to show for but riddles ie.about 'Daisy'.  
Don't tell me.  You came up with that one all by yourself.  You must be 
the 'smartest' piece of meat in your family.




GD> ... Belief is acceptance without question. 
        Thinking requires effort.

This is yet another one of your wrongful opinions.  I thought long and
hard before I really believed.  At this point it's sort of obvious that
you haven't really thought much about anything, and as such all you have
to show for is  your 'daisy' cop out.  This is just getting too easy,
but hey what fun!

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